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I'm not sure I'm in the market any more, so I might as well make it impossible...I want a factory velour interior too. :P

Actually, speaking of GT's and eBay, I won a Studebaker GT on eBay the other week, and the bugger just never contacted me! I never knew buying a classic car could be so hard, that's about the 6th sale I've had retracted from me in the last 12 months... :?


Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:32 am
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If that rainy day come stickman it will be loved and you could visit donkey when ever you want ;).


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Ghee Sticky that almost brought a tear to my eye. Lets hope it never comes to that :( :(


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degruch wrote:
has anyone noticed NOTHING sells on eBay lately? Lots of 'click to watch' going on there.


BULLITT wrote:
hi duanne things do sell on ebay i missed out on a glove box lock ,a wasp handbook ,and 5 mins ago a canadian bellett brochure , i sold my gem camry 2 weeks ago ,my wife has a site which does well on ebay but we are talking small amounts $$$ is what people have now


They must still have the wide open rules outside the US.
In their home market, they have decided that they must compete directly with Amazon. Insurance can no longer be optional, it's required. Everything must have a tracking number for the buyer protection program. The item must be delivered in 14 days, or the buyer can file for a refund. Sellers are expected to offer the item with "free shipping". They now charge the auction fee percentage against the item cost _and_ the shipping cost. The buyer rates the seller on shipping cost, and bad ratings mean higher fees or account suspension. So everything has to go by a fast shipping method, with tracking and insurance, and it should cost nothing to do this. Meanwhile, the post office has been raising rates in what seems like six month increments, and it is over $7 to ship anything. A $3-4 item with "free shipping" becomes a $10 listing. A $7-12 piece of collectible automobilia becomes $18-20. If the seller is brave enough to charge shipping on an item that is priced under $50, the buyer gives negative ratings.
It is impossible over here to sell the small things that people are actually buying now.

They changed the car selling rules recently too. It is a $125 minimum fee to the auction website for selling a car. If a car would sell for less than a thousand dollars, they owner pays a salvage yard less than a hundred dollars to have it crushed, and it is gone. No more cheap project car or parts car auctions. So if the car in Georgia ends up on a list website, instead of an auction website.

As far as auction sales being slow. Yes! For several years now!
It used to be there were slow times: Summer, everyone is out doing something. The month before tax day, everyone is paying their taxes. And for automotive stuff: Winter, because no one works on their cars when it's cold outside.
Now it's just dead the whole year long.
All window shopping, no commerce.


Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:25 pm
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Isabell Grand Tourer wrote:
Ghee Sticky that almost brought a tear to my eye. Lets hope it never comes to that :( :(


Dare I say...a teardrop?

So...Sticky...mate...that striplight '69...??? ;)


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They changed the car selling rules recently too. It is a $125 minimum fee to the auction website for selling a car.


:shock: Holy crap! No wonder project cars have dried up a bit. I spend more time scouting Craigslist myself (effectively a US Gumtree), and have bought a few things off it. Unfortunately, their scam warnings put the frighteners into most people about foreign buyers, a lot of people won't communicate via email, and almost no-one has PayPal. Having said that, most folks over there seem pretty down to earth and happy to make a deal work...must be the novelty of some guy from Australia contacting them!?!

No nationwide search function is a pain though, one of the reasons why this Bellett may simply be difficult to find, given the description.


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and if the Craigslist advice warns about all of us terrible, underhanded, deceitful, and just plain crooked foreigners (coz after all, only the nicest, most trustworthy and honest people on god's green earth can call America home!), then that would explain the lack of reply I've received over my email to this GT's seller...


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hi brett i to emailed him a week ago ...no reply .... cheers davo say no more


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It's probably the fear of email that seems to grip about 80% of the population...and Davo's punctuation. :P


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degruch wrote:
JT191 wrote:
They changed the car selling rules recently too. It is a $125 minimum fee to the auction website for selling a car.


:shock: Holy crap!


It is the good old days in the land down under.
http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/sell/fees.html

The Australian company is not charging final value fees against the postage.

And it is $35 final value fee for selling a car with a price under $5,000.

Over here in the home market of the company, we are getting screwed.


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The Ebay stoy is a bit sad - we're lucky to have it still working.
I learned not to add email to a Camry I put on All Classsifides a while ago. I got a dozen Malaysian/south american scam attempts involving western union. Pretty lame - "I must have your item for my uncle in malaysia very urgent." A Camry?
I thought to reply "You send cash, I put item in mail". Press 'Delete", remove email from add.

People can wreck a good thing.
Just be honest. How hard is it?

Cheers, Matt.

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Now it's famous, noted in the comments below (my man Myron) the seller seems to be trading on the celebrity status now...$5k :shock:

http://bringatrailer.com/2012/01/05/197 ... t-gt-1800/


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at least they've read my email explaining that it's a 72 model, not a 62...
but still no reply.
typical really.


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Has nobody managed to get onto this guy?

We have a guy in SA who wants to ship a 21' long Cadillac back to Australia through us... problem is that the container sizes are 20' and then 40' at a fairly hefty price difference.

Garage of Awesome could land that Bellett in SA at a cost of about $3359 plus the following:

+ 10% GST on the cost of the car in AUD
+ 10% GST on the cost of the internal freight (ie Georgia to LA - believe it or not the Oz Government wants a piece of that)
+ whatever the actual freight is from Georgia to LA

Any takers? Must have an answer by the weekend after Australia Day at the latest!

Depending on what the seller is asking, that could be a unique car here for $10-12k.

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Dave

(PS if you think this is spam.... go away, we run the site and we like Belletts here so we're just trying to help you help us help you!)

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Did you get any replies, Dave?

Georgia to LA is a heck of a long way though for frieght.

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