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gt 161
Joined: Wed May 19, 2010 10:35 am Posts: 33
Car(s): Gt Bellett, Rover 90, Rover 75 ,327 hk Monaro, 307 ht Ute, Mazda 6 wagon.
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I was at pick a part in Cambelfield Melbourne today and sighted a 1964 Bellett and a Bellel both cars are in very bad condition. The bellel looks like a sports model it has twin nikki carbies and extractors and a 2 litre motor and colunm shift. I inquired about buying the Bellel but was told that under the new vic road rules the car is classed as a wright off and it's next trip will be to the crusher and can not be sold but feel free to take what you won't from the car like the engine $215.00. I explained to the chap that this car is probably the rarest car in the yard but he said it's out of his hands, he told me that 4 cars in total came in 3 belletts and the bellel 2 belletts went to the crusher straight away as they stuffed the other 2 went to the yard but wont be there for long hope someone gets some bits before there gone ( get the motor for the wasp Craig)
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Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:22 am |
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oz_toffa
Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:16 am Posts: 1157 Location: Adelaide north near the hills.
Car(s): Roman Red 1965 Sedan, Mint 67 Sedan Auto, 1967 GT , 1.5x 1967 sedans, 1968 Deluxe Sedan, 1965 Wasp Ute (Resto project)
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just makes you cry when stuff like this ends up at the wreckers. There sure was a Sport Sedan motor that went into the later Bellel. Make a great addition to the sedan as you cruise around the Adelaide Hills.
Is anyone going to save the motor???
I would be happy to bring it home if someone can get to the wreckers and remove engine and gearbox. And happy to pay for engine and maybe even a slab or 2 for the hard working removal crew. Can throw it onto the trailer when i come over to Melbourne in a few months time.
Thanks
OZ
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Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:44 am |
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BULLITT
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:03 pm Posts: 2419
Car(s): 1966 TEARDROP ...MANUAL ...
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hey farmer the bellett looks like a bench seater ...go matt regards dave
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Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:32 pm |
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degruch
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:50 am Posts: 774
Car(s): Peugeot 206 GTi 180, Ford Fiesta, Bond Equipe 2-Litre GT, Mazda R360 Coupe, Nissan CSP-311 Silvia. PAST: Bellett 1600GT
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Wow! I knew there were Bellel (plural) about - what a shame. Sounds like BS from the yard owner - he'd be making more money in parts and scrap than as a job lot. Of course, I've no idea about Victoria's new rules, but any write off (financial or otherwise) can be road registered once road-worthied in SA, so long as it is inspected by Regency. Maybe he can sell to a non-Victorian??? Hehe.
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:41 am |
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mrflibbles
Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:39 am Posts: 1136 Location: Adelaide Hills
Car(s): GU Patrol, AU ute, 1969 florian deluxe, 1976 Luv & 1980 KB 4x4 isuzu
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not too hard at all to register a write of here in SA, im just waiting for all the newer vehicles that have been written off in the floods recently to start appearing in SA. It would be cool to save the bellel as it is a fairly rare car here.
_________________ I am "that" Florian guy. never buy a car you cant push.
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:46 am |
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gt orphanage
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:23 am Posts: 1816
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in qld we stat write off these cant be registered and repairable write off. I thought it was a nation wide thing to stop rebirthing cars and cut and shuts ect. they can be sold you cant put it back on the road, but the older cars dont go on record. Tell them you want to put a chev in it and use it for a drag car.
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:37 am |
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mrflibbles
Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:39 am Posts: 1136 Location: Adelaide Hills
Car(s): GU Patrol, AU ute, 1969 florian deluxe, 1976 Luv & 1980 KB 4x4 isuzu
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unfortunately each state has there own rules, had to tell a customer at work the other day that the $45,000 car with low milage had no warranty. customer couldnt believe it had been written off in another state, repaired and sold here as an excellent low mileage vehicle. It happens alot with cars here, we have a large crash shop not too far from us that gets a truck load of interstate write offs delivered regularly and then they get sold at the car yard across the road from them.
_________________ I am "that" Florian guy. never buy a car you cant push.
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:48 am |
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gt orphanage
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:23 am Posts: 1816
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well you better brace yourself bescause most of the flood cars are stat write offs. i did deliveries to fowles and pickles and their are thousands of them.
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:14 am |
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PR91
Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:54 am Posts: 2544
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no guys, thats the rules here in vic. a statutory "write off" thats sold at auction can be re-rego'd, but after a full inspection. if it's a total write off and lands in a wrecking yard, it'll only leave the yard as a steel pancake and gets shipment to china to become 10,000 hyundai ash trays.
and the engine and box is being saved as we speak for a Wasp project in Melb.
cheers.
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:17 am |
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oz_toffa
Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:16 am Posts: 1157 Location: Adelaide north near the hills.
Car(s): Roman Red 1965 Sedan, Mint 67 Sedan Auto, 1967 GT , 1.5x 1967 sedans, 1968 Deluxe Sedan, 1965 Wasp Ute (Resto project)
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Well that will be one unique Wasp once it is all done. That is the first set of twin Hitachi carb setup i have seen in the wild. Good to see they will still be about the place in the wild...
you guys in Melb get all the good brakes. but you didnt want them, did you?
OZ
_________________ So many toys and so little time to play!!
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:43 am |
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gt 161
Joined: Wed May 19, 2010 10:35 am Posts: 33
Car(s): Gt Bellett, Rover 90, Rover 75 ,327 hk Monaro, 307 ht Ute, Mazda 6 wagon.
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yer but what cheeses me off about this is the car is not smashed beyond repair if it was a magna or camry in the yard big deal there not in danger of extinction yet .You only need to look at the old yellow cabs that get reregoed in Melbourne some of these cars have had more hits than Elvis and the Beatles put together and have nearly a million k's on the clock in my opinion vic roads should round these up and crush them instead of an old bellett and bellel.
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:28 am |
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oz_toffa
Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:16 am Posts: 1157 Location: Adelaide north near the hills.
Car(s): Roman Red 1965 Sedan, Mint 67 Sedan Auto, 1967 GT , 1.5x 1967 sedans, 1968 Deluxe Sedan, 1965 Wasp Ute (Resto project)
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Agree totally Gt, but once the car is there thats it! need to stop them getting towed to the wreckers in the first place. i have started to advertise a "Wanted Belletts Isuzu Florian GT and Wasp Ute" in our local Sat morning paper here in Adelaide so that maybe we can stop some of these cars being crushed. just cant believe that a Bellel ended up at the crushers....
OZ
_________________ So many toys and so little time to play!!
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:45 am |
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gt orphanage
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:23 am Posts: 1816
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pr91 if you can get the headlight surrounds,and tail lights out of the sedan i will forward the cash.
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:07 am |
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degruch
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:50 am Posts: 774
Car(s): Peugeot 206 GTi 180, Ford Fiesta, Bond Equipe 2-Litre GT, Mazda R360 Coupe, Nissan CSP-311 Silvia. PAST: Bellett 1600GT
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In SA, the Regency Road Worthy inspection and securities check prevents rebirthing.
The wrecker would have applied for the write-off, so this guy obviously really wants to scrap them.
More astute scrap dealers over here are offering old cars for sale for the quick cash turnover...that's how I got my Honda 7 Coupe. The same guy had several 240K's on offer too.
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Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:04 am |
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lemansvk
Joined: Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:41 am Posts: 180
Car(s): Hillman (Bellett ancestor), Rallied a Bellett in the 1970s, Owned a Gemini, Bellett GTR 1:43
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oz_toffa wrote: Agree totally Gt, but once the car is there thats it! need to stop them getting towed to the wreckers in the first place. i have started to advertise a "Wanted Belletts Isuzu Florian GT and Wasp Ute" OZ Two other thing that could be done. First, put a wanted ad in "AllClassifieds". Next, I have an ad in Just Cars for Hillman owners who might want to start a local (Canberra) club. I get two to three calls a month from people all over Australia wanting to dispose of old Hillmans. Including one from the occasional clearer of farm machinery who has found something he thinks is too good to be crushed. I can't save all these cars, but I have saved a few by letting other people know about them. Cheers, Vic
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Farmer
Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:17 pm Posts: 2612 Location: Rye Park, N.S.W.
Car(s): Doris, AuntyMary, Shrek, Jimmy; GT, Wasp, Flo & Sed unrestos; 65 Elf; 82 Rodeo, 60 TX550, 72 Sport, & a Sigma.
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This is just a tragedy. I find it hard to understand. Who in officialdom would know or even care weather it was sold as a parts only wreck or crushed? There must be some way to save it. It is possibly the only one here. If you can plead harder I'll find some money. Can't....let....it....go! Sad now. Matt.
_________________ Life is far too short not to fill it with what you love. - Jackie French.[/size]
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:36 pm |
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degruch
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:50 am Posts: 774
Car(s): Peugeot 206 GTi 180, Ford Fiesta, Bond Equipe 2-Litre GT, Mazda R360 Coupe, Nissan CSP-311 Silvia. PAST: Bellett 1600GT
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Well, he has to take it somewhere to be crushed...maybe follow him and throw money at the scrap metal merchant? It's likely the car will be stripped of its ID by then. Surely money talks though?
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:22 pm |
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Farmer
Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:17 pm Posts: 2612 Location: Rye Park, N.S.W.
Car(s): Doris, AuntyMary, Shrek, Jimmy; GT, Wasp, Flo & Sed unrestos; 65 Elf; 82 Rodeo, 60 TX550, 72 Sport, & a Sigma.
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Gt 161, if you are back there & could get the cablight, Glovebox lock & entire shift linkage from the Bellett I would like to buy them. Also suggest saving that straight looking bonnet. Thanks, Matt.
_________________ Life is far too short not to fill it with what you love. - Jackie French.[/size]
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Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:34 am |
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KID_SRi
Joined: Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:41 am Posts: 8
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I'm pretty sure the Pair of them came from the North Western of Melbourne. About 10-12 Years ago I offered to buy a Bellel(Same as That) from a Bloke in Keilor, He had about 6 Complete GT Engines, A fair Few Gearboxes(1 was a GT-R Box, I got that) & Heaps of other Random Bellett & Wasp Stuff. His Back Yard was Full of Bellett Shells & The Bellel was in the Shed.
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Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:17 am |
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PR91
Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:54 am Posts: 2544
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yes KID, they did. he had 2 or 3 GT's years ago too, but they were saved way back when.
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