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Disc caliper identification.
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Farmer
Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:17 pm Posts: 2612 Location: Rye Park, N.S.W.
Car(s): Doris, AuntyMary, Shrek, Jimmy; GT, Wasp, Flo & Sed unrestos; 65 Elf; 82 Rodeo, 60 TX550, 72 Sport, & a Sigma.
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Hi everyone! I wonder if any of you are able to identify the calipers fitted to my Florian, Aunty Mary? They came already fitted up and look like they were meant to be there with no signs of modification. They look as though they bolted straight up. Attachment:
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They are a simple single piston with sliders, which are free. They use DB85 pads, which I have a new set of. My problem is that lately the left piston has been has been binding. This has caused the inner pad to drag a little, which has worn away the pad. Despite a fair bit of force, I can't get it to retract. I'm off the road until I identify the caliper and get a kit. Some cars using the DB85 pad are: Corolla 79-83 KE70 van, " 79-83 TE72, Mazda 73-76 RX-3 & 72-79 808 Lancer 79-81 Hatch & 74-80, Sigma 77-78, Colt 80-82, Galant 74-77. Thanks for any help, Mary is my daily at the minute. Cheers, Matt.
_________________ Life is far too short not to fill it with what you love. - Jackie French.[/size]
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Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:05 pm |
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Glenn
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 am Posts: 2823 Location: Melb.
Car(s): '72 Sport Bellett (imported 180912), M/B AMG A35, i30, had Belletts in past, 2 sed, 3 GT's.
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Matt, I stand corrected but looking at my my old sedan pictures, the caliper appears to be the same, ie Sigma. My rotors are round though but i think the type you have were also on some cars or maybe the Galant.
Might be best to get another confirmation also though. Brett will know but he is going the Jap day today i think and probably on the way or getting ready. I am off also soon.... to look.
glenn
_________________ '72 PR60 Sport
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Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:20 pm |
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KJB
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:05 am Posts: 620 Location: Western Victoria
Car(s): Bellett GT, Bellett Sedan, Prince Skyline GT, Porsche tractor, Lanz Bulldog, 996 Carrera 4,Prince Miler,
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Check out Nissan/Datsun .... that is what the owner told me they were off. KB
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Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:50 pm |
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Farmer
Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:17 pm Posts: 2612 Location: Rye Park, N.S.W.
Car(s): Doris, AuntyMary, Shrek, Jimmy; GT, Wasp, Flo & Sed unrestos; 65 Elf; 82 Rodeo, 60 TX550, 72 Sport, & a Sigma.
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Thank you both.
Glenn, thats a start, I'll try googleing some images, but as we're on satellite & my monthly data is used up, things happen pretty slowly.
Kerry, yes that's what John said at first, but then he wasn't sure. He thought they might be GT Bellett ones, but they're clearly not.
(The wheel bearing is way smaller than Florian or Bellett too, which is why I thought maybe Corolla.)
Thanks, Matt.
_________________ Life is far too short not to fill it with what you love. - Jackie French.[/size]
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Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:06 am |
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Glenn
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 am Posts: 2823 Location: Melb.
Car(s): '72 Sport Bellett (imported 180912), M/B AMG A35, i30, had Belletts in past, 2 sed, 3 GT's.
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OK, some pictures of my early sedan with Sigma disks. You can see the caliper looks the same as yours.
I think some Galants had same setup but the 'cutoff' type hubs. Need confirmation of that.
Glenn
_________________ '72 PR60 Sport
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Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:16 am |
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Farmer
Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:17 pm Posts: 2612 Location: Rye Park, N.S.W.
Car(s): Doris, AuntyMary, Shrek, Jimmy; GT, Wasp, Flo & Sed unrestos; 65 Elf; 82 Rodeo, 60 TX550, 72 Sport, & a Sigma.
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Ahh, looks spot on Glenn, thanks. I'll order a seal set tomorrow. Ya gotta love Bellett.net and this interwebby thingy - experienced people just a click away! It's great to be seeing your posts, BTW, my only problemis time to read it all. I have a couple of busy weeks & there's a heap of fresh stuff! Thanks again & cheers, Matt.
_________________ Life is far too short not to fill it with what you love. - Jackie French.[/size]
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Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:37 am |
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PR91
Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:54 am Posts: 2544
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yep, is the GD Galant version of them. the hub was slightly different, but used the same caliper as the early Sigma.
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Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:01 am |
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Farmer
Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:17 pm Posts: 2612 Location: Rye Park, N.S.W.
Car(s): Doris, AuntyMary, Shrek, Jimmy; GT, Wasp, Flo & Sed unrestos; 65 Elf; 82 Rodeo, 60 TX550, 72 Sport, & a Sigma.
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Thanks Brett, My Mitsu dealer said it's probably GE ('77) Sigma, but the genuine kit is obsolete. But Autopro said all DB85 padded Sigmas used the same caliper. Kit should be in Wednesday - $35. Hopefully, all good. Thanks again, Matt.
_________________ Life is far too short not to fill it with what you love. - Jackie French.[/size]
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:23 pm |
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Glenn
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 am Posts: 2823 Location: Melb.
Car(s): '72 Sport Bellett (imported 180912), M/B AMG A35, i30, had Belletts in past, 2 sed, 3 GT's.
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New rotors:- http://www.autopartsdirect2u.com.au/det ... otors/8726Lots of other interesting parts there also. Have a look at ball joints and master cylinders. glenn
_________________ '72 PR60 Sport
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:23 pm |
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65bellett
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:31 am Posts: 234 Location: Melbourne, Australia
Car(s): 65 and 66 sedan
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Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:17 am |
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Glenn
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 am Posts: 2823 Location: Melb.
Car(s): '72 Sport Bellett (imported 180912), M/B AMG A35, i30, had Belletts in past, 2 sed, 3 GT's.
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My link above shows they (Sigma) rotors are available
glenn
_________________ '72 PR60 Sport
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Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:04 am |
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65bellett
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:31 am Posts: 234 Location: Melbourne, Australia
Car(s): 65 and 66 sedan
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Glenn are those the bolt on type rotor or a top hat type that go over the hub.
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Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:28 am |
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Glenn
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 am Posts: 2823 Location: Melb.
Car(s): '72 Sport Bellett (imported 180912), M/B AMG A35, i30, had Belletts in past, 2 sed, 3 GT's.
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Bolt on, see my picture of the assembly from the top
glenn
_________________ '72 PR60 Sport
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Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:41 am |
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Farmer
Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:17 pm Posts: 2612 Location: Rye Park, N.S.W.
Car(s): Doris, AuntyMary, Shrek, Jimmy; GT, Wasp, Flo & Sed unrestos; 65 Elf; 82 Rodeo, 60 TX550, 72 Sport, & a Sigma.
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So, I got the kit, ripped off the caliper. The piston was so tight I had to shock it out between two blocks of wood. (Pedal pressure wouldn't budge it!) Trouble was the outer seal had a small hole pierced in it which had let moisture in. The housing had rusted up & the piston jammed in the rust. (It did sit for 12 years.) A quick hone, kit fitted, and good as new. New pads in & it stops like ........ like a car with brakes on it! Kit number is K861S : Caliper kit MM 50.65 : Mitsubishi Colt, Galant. Toyota. From Autopro. Thanks for putting me on the right track. Cheers, Matt.
_________________ Life is far too short not to fill it with what you love. - Jackie French.[/size]
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