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Glenn
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Car(s): '72 Sport Bellett (imported 180912), M/B AMG A35, i30, had Belletts in past, 2 sed, 3 GT's.
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does anybody know if the 117's had a 5 speed gearbox as standard???
the picture seems to indicate the later split case 4 or 5 speed type of box.
glenn
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oz_toffa
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i think it depends on the year model, Glenn. The adverts for manual 117's have 4 speed on early cars and 5 speed on later cars.
as a stab, reckon its about 1976 onwards have 5 speed
OZ
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Glenn
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 am
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Location: Melb.
Car(s): '72 Sport Bellett (imported 180912), M/B AMG A35, i30, had Belletts in past, 2 sed, 3 GT's.
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thanks, it says it's a 79........... いすゞ１１７クーペ PA96 １９７９ｙ
but the centre/rear section after the cast plate i thought was a bit thicker on the 5 speeds to accomodate the extra gear. Picture is not the best to ID that though but if you are right, should a 5 speeder.
glenn
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Simmo
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If you google image search gemini 4 and 5 speed you can easily see the difference. The 5 speed has an extra bulky section at the bottom of the gearbox directly below the quadrant box. 
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Glenn
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 am
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yes, i am aware of that but the picture i have of the 117 motor is poor in that area so it's hard to know what it is. Apart from the year of the engine which is all i can use to ID it
glenn
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Simmo
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Generalising a bit here, dunno about the 117 but the red tops were generally 2 litres. Did the 2 litre even come with a 4 speed?
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Glenn
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pretty sure its a 2litre engine but i know nill about the trans for them except this one appears to be a 'later' trans like Gemini's had.
I have seen a 117 transmission on the web which looked more like a Bellett type so assume they were 4 speeds sos think you are right Simmo
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flying
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Glenn The box looks similar to the one ive got which is a 5 speed viewtopic.php?f=36&t=1549#p11329Regards
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Glenn
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 am
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yes, except for the shifter type.. I am no expert but suspect your box is a Gemini one. ZZR. Is your engine a blue top 1800cc DOHC ? The one i have or hope to get, has the unenclosed remite shifter type which goes into a Bellett easily enough although a bit tricky to get the lever up through the hole when putting the engine/trans in ! glenn
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flying
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Glen
You are correct the zzr shifter did not fit I swapped this through Elky on the sunshine coast for a 117 shifter like the one in your photo
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Glenn
Yes Blue top 1800 DOHC
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Glenn
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All go then. Look forward to some pictures of the install too.
Glenn
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