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hello
I'm new to the forum and have a problem I hope someone can help me with !
I need a brake master cylinder because my can not be repaird and then I wonder where you buy yours ??
Here in Sweden it's impossible to get replacement parts, bought some from Finland but there it's also bad.

excuse my bad english!! :oops:

and a picture on one of our cars it is a 66 :D
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Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:12 pm
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Have you tried Dick in Holland, he may be able to help. He is on this site with a user name Dick.
Hope he can help.


Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:53 pm
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We either have them rebuilt with a stainless steel sleeve and internals, or fit an aftermarket one.
Belletts have a 3/4 bore size master. Hydraulic trailer brakes usually have this size, and the master they use is an almost bolt on change, so that's a common change.
They are cheap to buy too.


Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:21 pm
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Thanks for replies !
Where can I buy aftermarket cylinders ? Link?
Have not tried with him see if I can find him.


Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:47 am
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Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:11 am
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Asroc66 wrote:
Dick Klinkhammer
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Thanks James, my computer skills are limited.

Geoff


Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:42 am
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"Belletts have a 3/4 bore size master. Hydraulic trailer brakes usually have this size, and the master they use is an almost bolt on change, so that's a common change"

Strange about that, I bought one a few years ago as it was a lot cheaper than having the original re-sleeved and re-kitted. it went on easily but the brakes would not release, jus t kept on getting more stopping power with every push on the pedal to the extent that I had to limp home in first gear as it wouldn't pull in any other, I had veeeerryy hot drums as well. I swapped back to the old original and had no problems. Mind you I am also using a brake booster and I think the two weren't compatible so be wary of this if you are using an after market master cylinder. Has anyone else found this problem?

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love the teardrop ...stickman cant believe the roof rack... 8-) also its a roman ....and a left hooker what a gem ...hope you get the brakes sorted cheers davo


Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:11 pm
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I should check with Dick. thanks for the tip about aftermarket cylinders!
Thank you! what is a roman?
But it is not this car a have problem with the brakes this works very well :D
Still curious where to buy aftermarket cylinder ...

The sad thing is there are only about 15 cars left in Sweden so there is never anyone how know what kind of car it is!


Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:38 pm
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I should check with Dick. thanks for the tip about aftermarket cylinders!
Thank you! what is a roman?
But it is not this car a have problem with the brakes this works very well :D
Still curious where to buy aftermarket cylinder ...

The sad thing is there are only about 15 cars left in Sweden so there is never anyone how know what kind of car it is!


A "Roman" is the name of the colour = Roman Red

Davo is right, that roof rack is sensational, looks just like the one I had on my old 58 VW Beetle years ago

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And it's a Deluxe too....

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Ohh okay the color ... yes I think it is called deluxe 3 ?? with chrome trim and tinted windows all round.
You are right the roof rack comes from a 50-60s volksvagen which I modified a bit and make it fit .
As you can see in the background we mostly screws with old Volkswagens. :?


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Re Brake pump up
Funny that as Asroc is in shop today with a seized calliper
And before you say .... It took 2 guys to release it ..... Not that I am a wimp :D
What you are describing sounds like the actuating rod of the aftermarket brake cylinder is too long
When you release the pedal it does now retract enough to uncover the release port
Hence the pump up effect
If you shortened the rod to the pedal it should work
By the way if you install a cylinder with a bigger piston it won't stop unless you use both feet and Arnie Schwarzenegger legs

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Still curious where to buy aftermarket cylinder ...

Do you have ebay? or you could access ebay au. or

I would be prepare to get one for you if all else fails.

Cheers Geoff.


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Hi Geoff
EBay
Heaps of em under 'trailer 3/4 master cylinder'
but I recommend re-sleeving original !!!!!!!
Any decent Brake shop will do it
If In Tas ..... 'Tas Brakes' did mine
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Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:36 pm
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I agree James, we had our done in Brisy, and I would think not a problem having them done in Sweedan, freight is the killer in overseas buying.

My sedan has a dual cylinder fitted, with power assist to front , not sure what it is off ,would say Nissan or Mazda. Works a treat.

How did you go with the head?

Geoff


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3 of my 6 cars use a PBR 3/4 master. u can pick them up for under $50 brand new.
they need a bit of fiddling to fit, but definitely nothing silly.

2 cars are boosted, they being the Wasp with modified brakes all round, and the other being the GT which is standard after the master.
the unboosted 1 is a sedan with drums.

I use the standard Bellett pushrod on them as it fits straight in, and never had a prob.
in fact, I reckon they work better than a standard one, especially on an unboosted system.
as said, the pushrod a PBR master comes with is slightly longer so it wont release properly.

the race car is nothing like standard anywhere in its braking system with master, bias, lines, hoses, calipers, rotors, the lot all different to everything else, so details of that don't matter here.
1 is an all standard sedan with boosted drums that will get discs soon.
and the last 1 is undecided, but will probably get a PBR 3/4 and will only have rear brakes anyway..... but won't use them.


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its not a super early no spearheads through the 1500 badge ...but its a nice one


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great little exaust original style and a vw man as well you have good taste ..cheers davo


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