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2ldohc
Joined: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:22 pm Posts: 603 Location: Adelaide, Australia
Car(s): 1968 Isuzu Bellett Deluxe (Polynesian Blue), 1974 Datsun 240z, 1970 Datsun Fairlady SRL311, 1966 Prince Skyline
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Does anyone know if you can still get rebuild kits for G150's? Or any engine parts for that matter? Valves, pistons etc? I haven't started looking around but figured someone here would know the answer and save me a hell of a lot of effort Cheers, Ross
_________________1966 Prince Skyline GT-B 1968 PR20 Bellett Deluxe (flat lights) 1970 SRL311 Datsun Fairlady 1971 S30 Datsun 240Z - Race car 1972 S30 Datsun 240Z For more info, articles and pictures visit http://GarageofAwesome.com.au
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Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:28 am |
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PR91
Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:54 am Posts: 2544
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i have the part number "CJ161" floating around in my head, but i can't remember if it's a VRS kit or a full gasket kit, or if it's 1500 or 1600 tho... at least that might give you a starting point to go from?? i know alot of guys get the 1500 block bored to take standard 1600 Gemini pistons and rods, so then you can use standard Gemini rings and bearings too. this takes the capacity to 1622cc, i think, but don't quote me on that one... from memory here again!!
i'll see if i can find out some more.
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redback
Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:21 pm Posts: 528 Location: Darwin NT
Car(s): Isuzu Bellett, VG Commodore Ute, Custom Chopper
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I got a complete rebuild kit back in 2003 for my standard 1500cc engine from Dalby Autopro - they were very helpful via email and on the phone. It comprised of: VRS Gasket set 4 x Pistons (.0030 over) rings and bearings.
I will have a look in my files to see what I have on it regarding part numbers etc.
This is how it turned out:
Neil Darwin
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Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:40 pm |
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2ldohc
Joined: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:22 pm Posts: 603 Location: Adelaide, Australia
Car(s): 1968 Isuzu Bellett Deluxe (Polynesian Blue), 1974 Datsun 240z, 1970 Datsun Fairlady SRL311, 1966 Prince Skyline
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Awesome looking G150! My rebuild won't look nearly as nice as that but it does give me somehting to work towards Thanks for the responses so far guys, much appreciated. Cheers, RS.
_________________1966 Prince Skyline GT-B 1968 PR20 Bellett Deluxe (flat lights) 1970 SRL311 Datsun Fairlady 1971 S30 Datsun 240Z - Race car 1972 S30 Datsun 240Z For more info, articles and pictures visit http://GarageofAwesome.com.au
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Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:17 pm |
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redback
Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:21 pm Posts: 528 Location: Darwin NT
Car(s): Isuzu Bellett, VG Commodore Ute, Custom Chopper
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Cheers, The guy at the chrome platers/polishers LOVED me for a few months That is the first engine I have every built - and it is still going strong.
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Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:16 pm |
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oz_toffa
Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:16 am Posts: 1157 Location: Adelaide north near the hills.
Car(s): Roman Red 1965 Sedan, Mint 67 Sedan Auto, 1967 GT , 1.5x 1967 sedans, 1968 Deluxe Sedan, 1965 Wasp Ute (Resto project)
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crusing some old posts and that engine re-build on the G150 is an awesome job there Redback!
i am sure you have enjoyed driving that car for many years after doing such a good job.
OZ
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BULLITT
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:03 pm Posts: 2419
Car(s): 1966 TEARDROP ...MANUAL ...
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what a bloody great job ..cheers davo
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Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:32 am |
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RobSA
Joined: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:55 am Posts: 580 Location: Adelaide
Car(s): BA Falcon, 68 Bellett
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Number for the gasket kit either top end or whole thing would be great.
Cheers Rob
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Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:36 am |
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gt orphanage
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:23 am Posts: 1816
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cj151 chev luv vrs kit [top end] manifold gasket will not fit. I have them if you want 1.
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Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:48 am |
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Dick
Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:18 pm Posts: 95 Location: Netherlands / Holland
Car(s): Isuzu Bellett 1600 Sport SOHC, Honda City 2006, Honda CRV 2010, Vespa P150
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Hi, If you can't find the topend rebuild or full gasket set for your engine I might be of help; I have several on the shelf gr Dick
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Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:23 pm |
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redback
Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:21 pm Posts: 528 Location: Darwin NT
Car(s): Isuzu Bellett, VG Commodore Ute, Custom Chopper
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Hey Oz,
I will scrounge around for the numbers but as a backup I have used Dick for parts previously and his gear is top shelf and reliable mate!
Cheers Neil
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Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:27 pm |
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redback
Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:21 pm Posts: 528 Location: Darwin NT
Car(s): Isuzu Bellett, VG Commodore Ute, Custom Chopper
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Hey Rob, Just had a look around in the shed and found the invoice and part numbers for you. I got them from Dalby Auto Pro in 2004 I had to use 2 different kits to seal up the engine. Conversion Gasket Set - G to suit Isuzu 1964-67 Bellett 1500 PR20 EJ140 and it cost $63.00 And also used Chevrolet Isuzu Luv 1969-72 G 161 Engine FJ151 which cost $160.00 Here is their contact details www.autoprodalby.com.au07 4662 5844 Cheers and hope that helps
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Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:39 am |
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redback
Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:21 pm Posts: 528 Location: Darwin NT
Car(s): Isuzu Bellett, VG Commodore Ute, Custom Chopper
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Hey Brains Trust,
I am probably going to rebuild the spare engine I have in my shed - I am bored and wanted to get my hands dirty again........
This is going to be a "Hot One" High compression, built for perfomance - angry hopefully.
I am wondering what size it is - 1500cc or 1300cc
Can any of you shed some light on it please: so I can make sure I order correct parts etc
Photos of markings: Left Side has Japanese Symbols then13 101
Right Side has: B G185
I have a 3 speed manual I will probably use - just for something different.
Any advice or help is appreciated.
Cheers, Neil
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CQGT
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:04 am Posts: 386 Location: Boyne Island.Gladstone. Queenland
Car(s): '70 PR91,'69 PR20 x 2,'66 PR20,'65? KR20's x 2,'66 ? PR90,2012 d22 STR Navarra.
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Neil. G130 bore size 75mm. 1325cc. G150 79mm. 1471cc. Going by the sump and the front engine mount foot and starter it's probably a 3 bearing donk. Has the engine number got a prefix on it or is it like most that I have seen just a number.?? Is there no model number above the fuel pump mount hole.?? Very strange if not. Dave.
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Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:17 pm |
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redback
Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:21 pm Posts: 528 Location: Darwin NT
Car(s): Isuzu Bellett, VG Commodore Ute, Custom Chopper
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Hello Dave,
Thanks for the reply - yes it is a 3 bearing motor and I cannot remember seeing a model number above the fuel pump or the engine number - I will investigate this evening and measure up some bores.
I have a mate who works in a engine machining shop so I am hopefully going to look over his shoulder and learn some interesting machining stuff in the near future.
I will keep updating this one.
Cheers, Neil
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Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:22 pm |
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oz_toffa
Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:16 am Posts: 1157 Location: Adelaide north near the hills.
Car(s): Roman Red 1965 Sedan, Mint 67 Sedan Auto, 1967 GT , 1.5x 1967 sedans, 1968 Deluxe Sedan, 1965 Wasp Ute (Resto project)
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Would be rrrrrreal unusual to have a 1300cc engine but stranger things have happened. 3 bearing main engines go really well but dont run them at high RPM for long periods of time!! due to the flex in the crank, you will eventually start to chew thru the bearings. better to do a 5 bearing main if you want reliability and give it some extra go.
or do basic rebuild on this and drop it to replace the other engine and go hard on it instead.
keep us posted with plenty of pics
OZ
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redback
Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:21 pm Posts: 528 Location: Darwin NT
Car(s): Isuzu Bellett, VG Commodore Ute, Custom Chopper
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Yep thanks Dave for reminding me of the engine number ( has the size at the start) sorry.
Okay it is a G150, three bearing engine.
Onwards and upwards.
Anyone with a good oil pump and water pump?
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Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:07 pm |
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CQGT
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:04 am Posts: 386 Location: Boyne Island.Gladstone. Queenland
Car(s): '70 PR91,'69 PR20 x 2,'66 PR20,'65? KR20's x 2,'66 ? PR90,2012 d22 STR Navarra.
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Neil. Are you going to give the block and cyl. head a acid bath. ?? Going by the amount of crudd that's showing in your photos it will need one. Back in the early days of when I started in the motor industry, [Dec. '66], radiator coolant or inhibitor was never mentioned to put into a motorcar. The only engine manufacturer at that time that I was aware of that used a coolant inhibitor was Cummins. These engines were fitted to the IHC ACCO. In 1975 I changed jobs and started working for the GMH dealer.This is when I had an introduction to coolant inhibitor and only if you were going to go to the 'Snowys'. Later it was part of the service and is now used extensivly by all motor manufacturers. Three years ago I was trying to get my sedan to 'Coona' for the Nationals. As my original engine was at the rebuilders fitting Gemini internals to it, I have a '66 sedan and I decided to put the motor and gearbox into the '69. After giving it a good clean with a pressure cleaner it was looking good enough for a coat of paint and throw it into the car. I'm sitting there admiring our handywork and I saw this brown pinhead dot on 1 of the welch plugs. Got the screwdriver and give it a scrape. Well that mark got bigger and lots of water was coming out and it wasn't clear. I thought I flushed the block thoroughly. The amount of muck that came out of that hole after I removed the plug was unbeleivable. Subesquently no sedan to the Nationals, but I took the GT. On the phone the next day and enquired about the rebuild engine and what was the condition overall. First up it gets a acid bath. Second. After the maching etc. all plugs are replaced and including the camshaft bearings. The water outlet for the thermostat I knew was RS. The front of the head [alloy]and mainly where the thermostat is recessed had to be filled with metal,ground and machined because there was never any inhibitor used. At this stage your all thinking that it's another one of Daves' RANTS and I'm in the wrong section of the forum. I can assure you that it's not a RANT and I cannot emphasize enough that if anyone intends doing an engine up don't cut corners . Have the engine given a bath. Replace all plugs and use inhibitor.
Dave.
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CQGT
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:04 am Posts: 386 Location: Boyne Island.Gladstone. Queenland
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Welch plugs and muck
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gt orphanage
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:23 am Posts: 1816
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just make sure you can get cam bearings before you go acid bathing it they are a little hard to find
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