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pa_man
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:52 am Posts: 685
Car(s): 67 Bellett Auto Sedan, 65 Wasp, 73 Chev Luv, 1/2 A Chev Luv, VX Commodore
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Just for interest the welsh plug sizes (which aren't even listed in the workshop manual) are. For the G150 1 1/4 inch for the 5 on the side of the block. 1 3/4 inch for the one on the back of the head.
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Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:15 am |
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PR95
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:52 am Posts: 843 Location: Sunshine Coast QLD
Car(s): PR95 PR20 WASP SWB NH Pajero Superchrged NT Pajero BF SR6 Falcon
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MAN what a ball of information, didn't know all this stuff.
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Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:22 pm |
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yellowperil
Joined: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:15 am Posts: 280 Location: Hobart
Car(s): 1970 Bellett, 1968 Bellett, Triumph Stag, 1940 Traction Avant, T Ford 1938 Pontiac plus the usual modern stuff
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Thanks Pa man
With so many sizes about it's good info to have to replace weepy ones.
When I picked up the block I'm working on for group N from the machine shop I thought they'd installed new welsh plugs and happened to mention this. The reply was that just about every Isuzu motor they've seen has stainless steel ones. They just came up shiney after the wash and they looked like new once the black paint came off them. Reflecting build quality?
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:57 am |
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PR91
Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:54 am Posts: 2544
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ohhh, i wouldn't believe that.... i'd still be putting brass ones in. i put brass ones in my GT when i resto'd it, and they were definitly steel, because i've never seen stainless rust....
and even tho the aussie gemini engines were assembled here, they are still isuzu, and they were steel as well, as i've had one let go years ago.
cheers.
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:46 am |
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P.R.90
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:52 am Posts: 205
Car(s): 66 GTPR90
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Had to replace 1 in Sid (661/2 sedan)after 44 years it was definately steel Wonder if I can claim WARRANTY Replaced with Brass cheers Ken
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Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:48 am |
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yellowperil
Joined: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:15 am Posts: 280 Location: Hobart
Car(s): 1970 Bellett, 1968 Bellett, Triumph Stag, 1940 Traction Avant, T Ford 1938 Pontiac plus the usual modern stuff
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Thanks for the advice PR91 and P.R.90
They certainly look like stainless but I'll do a close check on the insides. It's not nice when they let go but I thought factory fitted ones in good condition would be a better bet than home fitted new ones.
What's your opinion on "staking" new ones to limit the chances of them coming adrift?
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Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:58 am |
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P.R.90
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:52 am Posts: 205
Car(s): 66 GTPR90
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Get the correct fitting ones put a smear of Stag compound on the edge & put in tight, should be good for another 40 years.Never had any trouble with ones I have fitted in the past . Good Luck Ken
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Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:49 am |
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yellowperil
Joined: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:15 am Posts: 280 Location: Hobart
Car(s): 1970 Bellett, 1968 Bellett, Triumph Stag, 1940 Traction Avant, T Ford 1938 Pontiac plus the usual modern stuff
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Thanks Ken i won't go "overboard" on the installation then
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Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:01 am |
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PR91
Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:54 am Posts: 2544
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i always replace them, with brass ones. there's no way i'd risk a 40yo steel plug, even if it looks OK on the outside.... it's the inside that rusts. as PR90 said, some sealant, a well fitting socket to tap them in with (some they go in square), in flush or just past the face of the plug hole, and never had a prob.... ever.
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Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:27 am |
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PR91
Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:54 am Posts: 2544
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ohh, and "blue RTV" gasket maker (blue goo!) works well too. is what i use.
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Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:28 am |
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RobSA
Joined: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:55 am Posts: 580 Location: Adelaide
Car(s): BA Falcon, 68 Bellett
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PR91 wrote: i always replace them, with brass ones. there's no way i'd risk a 40yo steel plug, even if it looks OK on the outside.... it's the inside that rusts. as PR90 said, some sealant, a well fitting socket to tap them in with (some they go in square), in flush or just past the face of the plug hole, and never had a prob.... ever. Same here, on my V8's , 6's and 4's. Cheers Rob
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Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:36 am |
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mrflibbles
Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:39 am Posts: 1136 Location: Adelaide Hills
Car(s): GU Patrol, AU ute, 1969 florian deluxe, 1976 Luv & 1980 KB 4x4 isuzu
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maybe im wrong but i recall jamming a coin into a welsh plug in one of my cars to stop it leaking till i could fix it.... I can never recall fixing it after though....
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Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:44 am |
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P.R.90
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:52 am Posts: 205
Car(s): 66 GTPR90
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the old penny used to work well i don't remember replacing the one I fitted to a sedan 20 odd years ago
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Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:56 pm |
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RobSA
Joined: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:55 am Posts: 580 Location: Adelaide
Car(s): BA Falcon, 68 Bellett
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Okay question to the knowledgeable, well maybe just the forum ;P On the back of the block are 4 plugs, 2 water one cam now is the little 3/4 inch one into the oil gallery or is it water as well ? The 2 I suspect to be water are the same 1-1/4 as the ones on the side of the block.
Cheers Rob
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Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:52 am |
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RobSA
Joined: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:55 am Posts: 580 Location: Adelaide
Car(s): BA Falcon, 68 Bellett
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You'd think welsh plugs are an easy thing to get Have been to 4 different parts stores and still only have 4 plugs of the 7 i need sheesh. Oh well I'll keep plugging away Cheers Rob
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Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:52 am |
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