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Reproduction Parts - Part 1: GT Hubcaps
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pa_man
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:52 am Posts: 685
Car(s): 67 Bellett Auto Sedan, 65 Wasp, 73 Chev Luv, 1/2 A Chev Luv, VX Commodore
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Wasp tail light lenses would be pretty handy! even for those with originals could put them away!
Josh
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Fri Sep 04, 2015 7:32 am |
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BULLITT
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:03 pm Posts: 2419
Car(s): 1966 TEARDROP ...MANUAL ...
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having a look at a wasp next weekend supposedly mobile we shall see cheers davo
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Fri Sep 04, 2015 8:06 am |
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Farmer
Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:17 pm Posts: 2612 Location: Rye Park, N.S.W.
Car(s): Doris, AuntyMary, Shrek, Jimmy; GT, Wasp, Flo & Sed unrestos; 65 Elf; 82 Rodeo, 60 TX550, 72 Sport, & a Sigma.
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BULLITT wrote: having a look at a wasp next weekend supposedly mobile we shall see cheers davo Ooooooh.........
_________________ Life is far too short not to fill it with what you love. - Jackie French.[/size]
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Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:26 am |
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Glenn
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 am Posts: 2823 Location: Melb.
Car(s): '72 Sport Bellett (imported 180912), M/B AMG A35, i30, had Belletts in past, 2 sed, 3 GT's.
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PR91 wrote: GT front indicators are the same as some Morris part I believe...... Under the bumper?? similar, not the same. Will fit though. I put them into Dave's GT.
_________________ '72 PR60 Sport
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Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:02 am |
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flying
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:11 am Posts: 259 Location: Adelaide
Car(s): 1967 GT Bellett
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Hi Lucas lens is higher and smaller diameter viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2315&p=21435#p21435Cheers Flying
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Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:09 pm |
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GTtoo
Joined: Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:51 am Posts: 1034
Car(s): 1964 GT Isuzu Bellett
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I know, getting off original topic....But nice work Flying......had no idea you did casting as well, great to know. And I'm sure the lenses are more affordable than a set of GT hubs Dwaine, thanks for going to the effort of designing and researching original GT hubs, they look great. Like most, they are unfortunately out of my legue at the moment. Plus with the mag thing going on with my GT, I dont have a set of wheels to put them on either. It was one of the things that made the Freegard GT soooooo original. Devestated to hear of the crap incident. At least you have come out of it ok and the car will live on, albeit in another state. It's something I fear everytime the GT goes out for a trip. Also, this is how small the world is. I keep in contact with Ken. He emails me to say a friend of his saw a GT looking sad on the back of a pick up, and asked if it was mine. Regrettably I had to break him the news Upwards and onwards, mate. B.
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Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:42 pm |
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Glenn
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 am Posts: 2823 Location: Melb.
Car(s): '72 Sport Bellett (imported 180912), M/B AMG A35, i30, had Belletts in past, 2 sed, 3 GT's.
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thanks for info. That rings a bell. The ones i used were glass as i recall although i doubt the ones available now are.
_________________ '72 PR60 Sport
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Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:51 am |
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Glenn
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 am Posts: 2823 Location: Melb.
Car(s): '72 Sport Bellett (imported 180912), M/B AMG A35, i30, had Belletts in past, 2 sed, 3 GT's.
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pa_man wrote: Wasp tail light lenses would be pretty handy! even for those with originals could put them away!
Josh It would seem that repro of any of the Bellett and Wasp lenses would find a ready market.
_________________ '72 PR60 Sport
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Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:53 am |
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degruch
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:50 am Posts: 774
Car(s): Peugeot 206 GTi 180, Ford Fiesta, Bond Equipe 2-Litre GT, Mazda R360 Coupe, Nissan CSP-311 Silvia. PAST: Bellett 1600GT
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Cheers guys, Hubcaps are off...unfortunately the complex edge roll profile almost doubled the cost of the tooling against our original estimates, so for 20 sets it would be US$1k/set (4). Given there's been no interest at US$500/set I'll drop it for now. The expense of making polished stainless hubcaps like this these days means they're unlikely to ever be available for less that US$1k at low volume, so lets not mention it again. Re: lenses, yeah, lets get going on some...I will have an indicative price on Silvia tail light lenses soon, GT tail light lenses will probably be the same price. Looks like there'll have to be some careful investigation into what beehive's are being replicated, don't want to go to the expense of replicating something that's readily available! I had a mould for these lenses too, which I passed on to Oz. Samples of the Mazda interior lights turned up today and they are first class quality. A few small changes to make and I'm going to run them again. Good process and materials test run. Badges = piece of cake. The centre badge of the hubcaps could cost ~US$40ea for example, I will have price on Silvia badges soon by way of comparison. Shame Keith found out about the sad demise of the 'Freegard GT', Bruno, but that's the pitfalls of having a unique car I guess. Never mind. Hopefully there will be a happy ending though. Like you say, happy to come out of it okay and appreciate the best wishes mate.
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Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:07 am |
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pa_man
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:52 am Posts: 685
Car(s): 67 Bellett Auto Sedan, 65 Wasp, 73 Chev Luv, 1/2 A Chev Luv, VX Commodore
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1 thing I thought of was the Early Series Bonnet badge, was thinking first in metal but then thought maybe chrome plastic as I reckon they will get knocked off pretty frequently. what does everybody think??? Also Wasp Tail lights??
Josh
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Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:23 am |
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degruch
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:50 am Posts: 774
Car(s): Peugeot 206 GTi 180, Ford Fiesta, Bond Equipe 2-Litre GT, Mazda R360 Coupe, Nissan CSP-311 Silvia. PAST: Bellett 1600GT
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I'd go aluminium Josh, it'd be cheaper. If I could get a sample to take dimensions off (and return) it would literally take me a couple hours to finish, then send off for quote. I need to line up Oz for a fact finding mission one afternoon. Cheers, Duane
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Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:28 am |
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pa_man
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:52 am Posts: 685
Car(s): 67 Bellett Auto Sedan, 65 Wasp, 73 Chev Luv, 1/2 A Chev Luv, VX Commodore
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Didn't think of Ali, I'm guessing the original is Ali, is the one in the picture too rough? If not we can use that one. Chris has got one good Wasp lens.
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Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:59 am |
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degruch
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:50 am Posts: 774
Car(s): Peugeot 206 GTi 180, Ford Fiesta, Bond Equipe 2-Litre GT, Mazda R360 Coupe, Nissan CSP-311 Silvia. PAST: Bellett 1600GT
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I reckon the one above will be fine, will drop into Oz's soon.
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Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:12 pm |
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degruch
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:50 am Posts: 774
Car(s): Peugeot 206 GTi 180, Ford Fiesta, Bond Equipe 2-Litre GT, Mazda R360 Coupe, Nissan CSP-311 Silvia. PAST: Bellett 1600GT
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Digging up this old thread, just out of interest, here's the Silvia badge set I had made...stainless steel (no rust or pitting, strong and close to original weight), sandblasted (for casting effect in centre), polished, chrome-plated, then painted blue and red, an order of 10 sets came in approx. cost @ AU$500 per set.
I have the pitted originals for my car, they can sit in a box somewhere while the repro's take pride of place...I wouldn't be able to restore them for AU$500 anyways. Nothing's a bargain these days, but at least it also proves nothing is 'made from unobtainium' any more, for those who don't have original parts for their car.
Anyways, not spruiking any extra work, but happy to lend a hand if someone wants help getting parts made. I reckon by comparison, a Bellett GT badge set would be less as sandblasting is not required, nor multiple colours.
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Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:37 am |
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degruch
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:50 am Posts: 774
Car(s): Peugeot 206 GTi 180, Ford Fiesta, Bond Equipe 2-Litre GT, Mazda R360 Coupe, Nissan CSP-311 Silvia. PAST: Bellett 1600GT
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Hubcaps too, although tooling for these was expensive, which drove the part price up to US$1,000 per set. Was hard to generate interest at that price to some extent, the old chicken v egg situation of increased interest = more customers = lower cost = blah, blah, blah.
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Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:55 am |
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Redzone
Joined: Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:52 am Posts: 44
Car(s): John White DOHC Gemini Group A touring car
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Wow that's awesome! Great work!
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Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:12 am |
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PR91
Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:54 am Posts: 2544
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an NOS early series bonnet badge, still in the box, is better. and at $5, how could I say no....?
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Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:12 am |
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BULLITT
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:03 pm Posts: 2419
Car(s): 1966 TEARDROP ...MANUAL ...
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excellent stuff you did well mate you chased it all the way
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Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:45 pm |
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degruch
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:50 am Posts: 774
Car(s): Peugeot 206 GTi 180, Ford Fiesta, Bond Equipe 2-Litre GT, Mazda R360 Coupe, Nissan CSP-311 Silvia. PAST: Bellett 1600GT
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PR91 wrote: an NOS early series bonnet badge, still in the box, is better. and at $5, how could I say no....? I agree...score! Happily for purveyors of fine motoring, Bellett stuff can still be had at a good price, if you're prepared to wait it out. Silvia stuff is not only rare, but every bastard seems to know its rare, so the poor guys who don't have badges are being subjected to some serious profiteering. Still, you pay what you have too, but if you can make it (properly) for less, why not!? Anyways, cheers guys...it's been a tough slog, but I'm glad to have proven the process is feasible, not overly expensive, and can produce a good result in small quantities. I've got more Silvia bits and a bunch of 110S Cosmo bits to do now.
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Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:47 pm |
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pa_man
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:52 am Posts: 685
Car(s): 67 Bellett Auto Sedan, 65 Wasp, 73 Chev Luv, 1/2 A Chev Luv, VX Commodore
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Nice work there should look great! 5$ for a bonnet Badge??? there's is still hope then for the Wasp Josh
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