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Glenn the myth that g---w parts are not around :?: Most parts are however, as we all know with bellett bits you have to look,find and adapt :roll: The g---w is in the same basket if you ring a parts suplier and rattle off that you want a part for either you will get the same reply awaaaht :D a bellett :) awaaaht :roll:
The bottom end bearings are the same as the g---z,rings are the same also ie 1600,1800,2000 i assume as we did a g180 and used 180z rings not knowing much about the gemini engine i do not know if there displacement change is bore or stroke or both.
vrs kit is available from coventry auto parts/bursons
We had not replaced cam bearings as they were ok but a head shop with the right id i am sure they could tunnel bore to suit :?: if they could not be found.
A forum has the recipe to convert mitsubishi timing chain and tesioner to suit.
Dizzy parts throw the old one away and use a g---z dizzy cut it to the right length shim the w gear drive to suit then the guts from a rb gemini will give you the option of electronic ign or fit the reluctor and it will talk to delco pulsar/camira efi.
We reused the sump gasket with ultra grey as this was not so easy to find. It would be nice to go to a parts supplier and say can i have a rebuild kit for a ...... but then we would all be driving a boring holden or ford :D
I rebuilt a chev 383 stroker for our ski boat a few years back sat on the phone for 15 minutes told the guys what i wanted gave them a credit card number and 2 days later at my feet. sweet but just toooo easy ;) no challange :lol:
Waldo do you have a part number for the rebuilt kit i might put 2 in storage :?: for a rainy day as we have had a few lately.


Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:23 am
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Hi, OK on the parts. I have had 2 DOHC's and had one partially rebuilt so know that some parts you can find, others not so easy. There was a place in QLD some years ago that was making gasket kits for the DOHC's when they were a popular fit into Gemini's. With my GT 1600 OHV, it was rebuilt using Gemini rods and pistons etc.

I think there is info here somewhere on the differences in the gemini type SOHC engines, bore strokes etc which might be helpfull. But the most common DOHC here seems to be the 1800cc from what I can tell. I got a timing chain from a place here called "The Chain Gang". Just had it made to length.

Sometimes it's the little things that may need replacement. If one has to pay somebody to do a re-build though, having all the right parts to hand is a necessity.

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Looks good!

So many Type-Rs and replica Type-Rs.

I now count four... if you include RobSA's Ratter Type R sedan!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Looking good!

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Glenn i think your right i know of 2 1600 it does seem that the 1800 is the most common i have 2 gt's with twin cams 1 1800 and the other is 2000 not that you can tell ;) ;) back when i did the car it was not legal to put 2000 in the gt so it got what looks like a 1800 ;) ;) on the outside it's ok now they changed the rules all that time machining for nothing :lol:


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Have only seen one 1600 DOHC in a sedan here. The other one i saw was in a Gemini.

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I was going to put the gtr 1600 dohc motor in just to keep it original but im after maximum power so opted for the g200w instead


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Wow Waldo

What an impressive amount of work. It would be great to see it in real life. I think you've almost converted me to an admirer of the 2 door variety!!

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Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:32 am
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ill keep everyone updated as the build slowly takes place. ;)


Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:02 am
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Finally brought the car home tonight from the paintshop still needs to be cut and polished so should turn out even shinier...test fitted the wing mirrors just to see how they look. Now i can start putting it back together! Hope you all like!

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great job it will get better from here on... looks great waldo a bit of work ahead .....it will be worth it cheers davo


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i'm guessing the radiator support is cut away due to the intercooler on the old engine?


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Looks fantastic !

don't think those wheels will fit though ....

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Thats beautiful stuff Waldo, just keep the updates coming.


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Yeah the wheels fit...just have to get new rims spun for 3 of them though ill keep the updates rolling as it progresses


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absolutely amazing
so beautiful
now the fun begins

you will be amazed at the changes everytime you add something to her
cannot wait to see her in person at the nats

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:o sweet :o


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:D Another great read,like one from the orphanage,love the colour,sure
will look forward to seeing in the metal.Waldo is this the car that was in the
Trading Post for sale 4 or 5 years ago with a turbo motor,up Marybrough
I think?Great looking machine :D thanks for sharing, Gerry


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Yeah it was that car! The only good thing about buying it was the shell had no rust but out of everything that came with it, i used only the the shell because everything else was butchered or hacked up in some terrible way, so i had to find a complete bellett in japan and strip it of everything! And if anyone asks its not staying turbo! With the turbo it made about 10more hp than a stock twin cam and had turbo lag! And the motor didnt have a nice throaty sound to it! Pretty much everything has been scrapped but the shell.


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do mean a complete GT or a GTR out of Japan?

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It was a gtr but the chassis was buggered so i got all the parts off it.


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