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redback
Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:21 pm Posts: 528 Location: Darwin NT
Car(s): Isuzu Bellett, VG Commodore Ute, Custom Chopper
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Yes I am absolutely going to remove welch plugs for an acid bath (it has been sitting in the back of my shed for 10 years I think - I remember doing the same for the motor in Stinky now.
It is not a rant when it is advice CQ - all good. I am very open to advice - that is why I post these things so Bellett.net can give me heads up!! I thank you all!
Thanks Dave for the info on the Cam Bearings - will let you know how I go.
Cheers, Neil
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Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:58 pm |
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Glenn
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 am Posts: 2823 Location: Melb.
Car(s): '72 Sport Bellett (imported 180912), M/B AMG A35, i30, had Belletts in past, 2 sed, 3 GT's.
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gt orphanage wrote: just make sure you can get cam bearings before you go acid bathing it they are a little hard to find has anybody solved this problem of cam bearings ? I had same issue way back in 90's on the GT engine rebuild.
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Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:32 pm |
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PR95
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:52 am Posts: 843 Location: Sunshine Coast QLD
Car(s): PR95 PR20 WASP SWB NH Pajero Superchrged NT Pajero BF SR6 Falcon
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Somewhere in the old memory bank I recall that 1200 Suzuki Motor cycle bearings were being modified to fit.
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Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:22 pm |
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gt orphanage
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:23 am Posts: 1816
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I think you will find that Suzuki mod was twin cam.
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Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:39 am |
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Glenn
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 am Posts: 2823 Location: Melb.
Car(s): '72 Sport Bellett (imported 180912), M/B AMG A35, i30, had Belletts in past, 2 sed, 3 GT's.
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does anybody have the dimensions of the bearings (Bellett that is)
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Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:01 am |
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redback
Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:21 pm Posts: 528 Location: Darwin NT
Car(s): Isuzu Bellett, VG Commodore Ute, Custom Chopper
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Hello Glenn,
I found this info on camshaft bearings this morning:
Camshaft Bearing Set 3C6127 Oversize STD Brand ACL Manufacturer ACL Camshaft Bearing (c) 6127 - 1,2,3 OE Part Number 1 5-11611-002 Manufacturer ACL Min Std Shaft Size 1.7707in / 44.975mm Max Std Shaft Size 1.7707in / 44.975mm Min Std Tunnel Size 1.8902in / 48.01mm Max Std Tunnel Size 1.8909in / 48.03mm Max Wall At Crown 0.0591in / 1.5mm Max Overall Length 1.0000in / 25.4mm Semi-finished N Min Vertical Oil Clearance 0.0014in / 0.035mm Max Vertical Oil Clearance 0.0037in / 0.095mm Material F23
MAIN BEARINGS: Main Bearing Set 5M2817 Oversize STD, .25, .50, .75, 1.00, 1.25, 1.50 Brand ACL Duraglide Manufacturer ACL Main Bearing (c) 2817 - 1,3,5 Half Type Identical Halves OE Part Number 1 9-11510-609 OE Part Number 2 9-11510-141 Manufacturer ACL Min Std Shaft Size 2.2016in / 55.92mm Max Std Shaft Size 2.2022in / 55.935mm Min Std Tunnel Size 2.3220in / 58.98mm Max Std Tunnel Size 2.3228in / 59mm Max Wall At Crown 0.0596in / 1.513mm Max Overall Length 1.2650in / 32.13mm Min Vertical Oil Clearance 0.0007in / 0.019mm Max Vertical Oil Clearance 0.0031in / 0.08mm Material F780 Main Bearing (c) 2818 - 2,4 Half Type Identical Halves Manufacturer ACL Min Std Shaft Size 2.2016in / 55.92mm Max Std Shaft Size 2.2022in / 55.935mm Min Std Tunnel Size 2.3220in / 58.98mm Max Std Tunnel Size 2.3228in / 59mm Max Wall At Crown 0.0596in / 1.513mm Max Overall Length 0.8299in / 21.08mm Min Vertical Oil Clearance 0.0007in / 0.019mm Max Vertical Oil Clearance 0.0031in / 0.08mm Material F780
Hope that helps mate. Neil
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gt orphanage
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:23 am Posts: 1816
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I have a new set here a forum member helped me get it's up to that forum member to say if he can get more as I think the supply is low if not gone.
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Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:09 am |
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Glenn
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 am Posts: 2823 Location: Melb.
Car(s): '72 Sport Bellett (imported 180912), M/B AMG A35, i30, had Belletts in past, 2 sed, 3 GT's.
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Thanks Neil
I don't need any now, but the info could help soembody out maybe. I wonder if the SOHC and DOHC lay shaft uses the same bearings.... i would imagine so.
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Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:02 am |
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gt orphanage
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:23 am Posts: 1816
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last time I checked acl no longer had stock and were not making any Maybe a group buy I would get a couple more sets.
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Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:14 am |
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Glenn
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 am Posts: 2823 Location: Melb.
Car(s): '72 Sport Bellett (imported 180912), M/B AMG A35, i30, had Belletts in past, 2 sed, 3 GT's.
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gt orphanage wrote: last time I checked acl no longer had stock and were not making any Maybe a group buy I would get a couple more sets. thatmight be the way to go, a group buy or maybe a Club purchase as these will always be a problem otherwise
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Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:33 am |
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gt 161
Joined: Wed May 19, 2010 10:35 am Posts: 33
Car(s): Gt Bellett, Rover 90, Rover 75 ,327 hk Monaro, 307 ht Ute, Mazda 6 wagon.
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I have already checked with acl about getting them remade and they will do them but need to order a min of 300 sets very expensive I'll have a look through my spares as I should have a few spare sets that I won't need. Peter.
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Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:37 am |
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Glenn
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 am Posts: 2823 Location: Melb.
Car(s): '72 Sport Bellett (imported 180912), M/B AMG A35, i30, had Belletts in past, 2 sed, 3 GT's.
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gt 161 wrote: I have already checked with acl about getting them remade and they will do them but need to order a min of 300 sets very expensive I'll have a look through my spares as I should have a few spare sets that I won't need. Peter. Hi Peter, do you know if they also fit SOHC and DOHC engines. glenn
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Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:57 am |
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gt orphanage
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:23 am Posts: 1816
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The ones I have are nason 3c6127n made in Taiwan box says for g130/150/161/180/200 ? Maybe they might be of help
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Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:09 am |
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gt 161
Joined: Wed May 19, 2010 10:35 am Posts: 33
Car(s): Gt Bellett, Rover 90, Rover 75 ,327 hk Monaro, 307 ht Ute, Mazda 6 wagon.
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Hi Glen they will fit 1800 block as well
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Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:31 am |
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Glenn
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 am Posts: 2823 Location: Melb.
Car(s): '72 Sport Bellett (imported 180912), M/B AMG A35, i30, had Belletts in past, 2 sed, 3 GT's.
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gt 161 wrote: Hi Glen they will fit 1800 block as well thanks Peter. (long time no see, mate) glenn
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Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:08 pm |
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Glenn
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 am Posts: 2823 Location: Melb.
Car(s): '72 Sport Bellett (imported 180912), M/B AMG A35, i30, had Belletts in past, 2 sed, 3 GT's.
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gt orphanage wrote: The ones I have are nason 3c6127n made in Taiwan box says for g130/150/161/180/200 ? Maybe they might be of help might be worth asking at Bursons etc........ thanks glenn
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