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G161 Gaskets and after market parts.
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Anthiron
Joined: Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:21 am Posts: 57 Location: Sunshine Coast QLD
Car(s): 74 Chev Luv, 60 VW Baja Bug, 72 MK1 Escort, 70 MK2 Cortina, 04 Harley Sportster Custom, 79 Yamaha RX125 Tracker,
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Hi guys
I am wondering whether Gasket kits are available for the G161 engine and if so where are they available?
I also understand that the G161 isn't a performance unit but I am looking at fitting a DGEV Weber and am wondering if there are any bolt on extractors available before I have something Fabbed up?
Cheers
Nicko
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:36 am |
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pa_man
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:52 am Posts: 685
Car(s): 67 Bellett Auto Sedan, 65 Wasp, 73 Chev Luv, 1/2 A Chev Luv, VX Commodore
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The Last time I checked Burson (Motor Traders) used to list them for the Chev Luv. But Getting them to confirm it was for a G161 and not a G161z was always a challenge. G161 performance is relative, the GT Bellett has a G161 with twin and carbs extractors. I know a few G161s are wearing webbers. I few of the guys around have had or are making their own extractors, dont know how many would be willing to part with them! Josh
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:21 am |
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gricey
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:37 pm Posts: 692
Car(s): 2 GT Belletts bellett sedan . Florian.gt project.fj Holden. Gemini.lc gtr.datsun240 z
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Josh . Think I have twin carb manifold for a g161 . Su carbies .send me a pm if interested Gricey.
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Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:52 pm |
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Anthiron
Joined: Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:21 am Posts: 57 Location: Sunshine Coast QLD
Car(s): 74 Chev Luv, 60 VW Baja Bug, 72 MK1 Escort, 70 MK2 Cortina, 04 Harley Sportster Custom, 79 Yamaha RX125 Tracker,
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Gricey you have PM
pa-man, Yeah I had a look at Bursons and Repco. The best I could find was a head gasket and oil filter. nothing else from the catalog was available anymore that they could order.
I was hoping there might be a secret squirrel supplier for everything else.
I have a mate who makes extractors, turbo manifolds and other Tig welded goodies as a side business. Always cool to have period accessories and equipment if available though!
Nicko
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Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:10 am |
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pa_man
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:52 am Posts: 685
Car(s): 67 Bellett Auto Sedan, 65 Wasp, 73 Chev Luv, 1/2 A Chev Luv, VX Commodore
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The only genuine Extractors would be GT and I would say rocking horse poo would be easier to find than someone willing to give up those! We have used Auto Silicon for things like rocker cover and sump gaskets. gt orphanage prob the one to PM about Manifold Gaskets, Extractor plates and possibly some others gaskets etc, just let him know what you are after. Josh
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Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:39 am |
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PR91
Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:54 am Posts: 2544
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Just remember tho kiddies.... A G161 is all dependant on what type it is, even in bellett form. A Florian spec engine is the same as an early Luv one, which has a different head to a GT, as the manifold mounting are completely different.... So swapping them is not just a bolt off bolt on job. You need to make sure Flo/Luv engines get Flo/Luv manifolds, and GT's similarly need GT stuff. Just a word of warning before you commit.
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Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:55 am |
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Anthiron
Joined: Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:21 am Posts: 57 Location: Sunshine Coast QLD
Car(s): 74 Chev Luv, 60 VW Baja Bug, 72 MK1 Escort, 70 MK2 Cortina, 04 Harley Sportster Custom, 79 Yamaha RX125 Tracker,
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Ahhh
Thanks for the tip pr91
Looks like custom it is.
I take it that the bellett engine had a better flowing head?
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Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:09 am |
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mrflibbles
Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:39 am Posts: 1136 Location: Adelaide Hills
Car(s): GU Patrol, AU ute, 1969 florian deluxe, 1976 Luv & 1980 KB 4x4 isuzu
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i have been led to believe the luv head is cast iron and the florian head is alloy, i dont know if the ports are the same though? someone educate me if im wrong. i have a florian head here i can check the ports shape and size on. (may have to look at an early luv with the manifolds off to see if they are the same?
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Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:44 am |
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pa_man
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:52 am Posts: 685
Car(s): 67 Bellett Auto Sedan, 65 Wasp, 73 Chev Luv, 1/2 A Chev Luv, VX Commodore
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I think Daves Ratter is running the Luv style motor, dont know if he has ever had the manifold off?? Totally didnt think how different some of the manifold ports are?? The other option for gaskets is Dick Klinkhamer in Holland, wont be cheap but he may have them. He is on this forum so you can PM him, also a couple of pages of his below http://home.kpn.nl/dccdccdcc1/https://sites.google.com/site/isuzuclub ... s-for-sale
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Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:18 am |
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degruch
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:50 am Posts: 774
Car(s): Peugeot 206 GTi 180, Ford Fiesta, Bond Equipe 2-Litre GT, Mazda R360 Coupe, Nissan CSP-311 Silvia. PAST: Bellett 1600GT
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I got a G161 VRS kit from Sprint Auto Parts...so you should be able to get them pretty well anywhere. GT bits custom, of course. The head gasket looks pretty damn close to a GT, but of course, I haven't fitted it yet.
BTW, I'm up for a manifold gasket if anyone's planning on doing a run! Better start collecting bits for the inevitable.
Cheers, Duane
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Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:20 am |
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gt orphanage
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:23 am Posts: 1816
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You could write a book on this subject The vrs kit is for the luv the manifold gasket should be right. They are opposite to gt round inlet square exhausts. Duane the head gasket will fit the gt. The Luv has 2 g161 engines before the over head cam. I have a later 1 here that has a rubber rear main seal and a hydraulic chain tensioner. Identical to a bellett engine. OPR91 has observed this also as we have had some light discussion on these engines. PA man these engines will do your head in every time you play with 1 something seems to be different. The florian engine for example I bought a florian vrs kit from dick it looked right until I realized the dowles were at the top and mine were at the bottom I punched the holes to suit all perfect the port holes were great but now only half the studs will fit the others were half a hole out. With a few mods it was all good. Not a problem with Dicks product Isuzu had a change Using a gt block was interesting as the florian sump has allowed for a drag link so now the gt oil pump does not mesh with the sump, the list went on. sedans have 3 bearing cam shafts gt has 5 the luv has 3 bearing but machined for 5. You need to be very aware when you start taking bits from a spare engines they look the same but they may not be Twin cams have a few funny's also. Check and recheck
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Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:16 am |
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pa_man
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:52 am Posts: 685
Car(s): 67 Bellett Auto Sedan, 65 Wasp, 73 Chev Luv, 1/2 A Chev Luv, VX Commodore
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OMG Head has officially been done in!! That's worse than I thought, My Luv could have one of two different engine configurations that were only available In a three year period! Just thinking about it I would guess the changes came Between the 72 and 73 models as there were a few minor changes like the 72 had Wasp tail lights, where the 73/74 had larger tail lights and little Bumperettes! Just theorizing!!
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Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:43 am |
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Anthiron
Joined: Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:21 am Posts: 57 Location: Sunshine Coast QLD
Car(s): 74 Chev Luv, 60 VW Baja Bug, 72 MK1 Escort, 70 MK2 Cortina, 04 Harley Sportster Custom, 79 Yamaha RX125 Tracker,
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Oh my.........Complicated. Well I have posted a picture of my engine below. Does this look the same as yours Pa_man? Nicko
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Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:59 pm |
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pa_man
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:52 am Posts: 685
Car(s): 67 Bellett Auto Sedan, 65 Wasp, 73 Chev Luv, 1/2 A Chev Luv, VX Commodore
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I took a photo of a friends 72 as my engine does look the same. Looks like they all look VERY similar except under the skin!!
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Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:06 am |
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Anthiron
Joined: Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:21 am Posts: 57 Location: Sunshine Coast QLD
Car(s): 74 Chev Luv, 60 VW Baja Bug, 72 MK1 Escort, 70 MK2 Cortina, 04 Harley Sportster Custom, 79 Yamaha RX125 Tracker,
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Looks identical doesn't it!
I just found a Conversion Gasket set on ebay for a 74 Chev Luv with G161 so I've bought that. Just need a VRS kit now to have a full set!
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Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:16 am |
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Stickman
Joined: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:29 pm Posts: 1524 Location: Kallangur, Brisbane QLD
Car(s): 3x1965 PR20(Donkey, Jenny n Bundy) 1 1969 PR20(Percy) 2 1968 PR20(Eugine n GT Donor) 1 1968 PR91 GT, 1 1965 Wasp
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Hey Josh, looks like your friend needs Donkey and I to pay a visit and blow those cobwebs out of his Luv
_________________ 1xB+1xE+2xL+1xE+2xT=BELLETT RUST isn't a crime www.gartdesign.com.au
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Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:09 am |
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pa_man
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:52 am Posts: 685
Car(s): 67 Bellett Auto Sedan, 65 Wasp, 73 Chev Luv, 1/2 A Chev Luv, VX Commodore
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This is Oz's Luv, mine doesn't have as many cobwebs But always welcome a visit from donkey and you.
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