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67GT
Joined: Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:44 am Posts: 348 Location: central coast
Car(s): 1967 bellett gt, wasp trayback , 2018 d-max 4x4 dual cab LSU, 2016 Focus, 1996 GQ Patrol
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Wow what a project. It makes me feel better about the task I have ahead of me with my GT. Keep up the good work, and the photos.
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Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:35 pm |
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Earthp
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:55 pm Posts: 46 Location: Portugal
Car(s): Isuzu Bellett GT 1967, Toyota Celica TA22 1973, Toyota Corolla KE35 SR 1976
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A barn find
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Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:40 pm |
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BULLITT
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:03 pm Posts: 2419
Car(s): 1966 TEARDROP ...MANUAL ...
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great find more pics of your progress please .cheers davo
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Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:35 pm |
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Earthp
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:55 pm Posts: 46 Location: Portugal
Car(s): Isuzu Bellett GT 1967, Toyota Celica TA22 1973, Toyota Corolla KE35 SR 1976
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Hi guys...can I make a question to the experts? Are the parts of the Bellett Sedan like suspension, gearbox and brake system the same and compatible with the Bellett GT? Thanks, regards
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Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:45 pm |
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Early GT
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:37 am Posts: 265 Location: Gold Coast, Qld
Car(s): 1966 Bellett GT, 1968 Bellett GT, 2017 Subaru Levorg 2.0 GTS
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Here is the comparison between sedan and GT in brief Rear brakes...identical Front brakes....disc and caliper for GT, drums for sedan Suspension swing arms...identical Rear transverse leaf spring...identical Front sway bar....GT is a bit stiffer and 2mm bigger in diameter I think Springs....GT springs are stiffer. Shock absorbers...identical....Australian HQ Holden fit. Gearbox...both 4 speed. GT has closer ratios and has a remote selector box Mounted on top of the gearbox. Because of this handy interchangeability, you could easily use all bellett sedan parts to complete your epic rebuild on your GT as GT front brakes, springs and gearbox are so rare. You would just have to cut a hole in the tunnel to fit a direct selector for a sedan gearbox. Keep checking the yahoo Japan auctions for used suspension parts as belletts still get dismantled there and parts sold online...2 problems for you is the translation issue and an import agent to Get the parts to your country plus high freight costs. I hope this helps..... Lewis.
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Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:09 pm |
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PR91
Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:54 am Posts: 2544
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Rear brake internals are the same. Drums themselves are different. GT alloy tinned, sedan cast iron normal. Correct. GT sway bar is 2mm bigger. Mounts are the same and are the downfall of the sway bar arrangement on all Belletts.... Unless modified Using a sedan gearbox will also mean you can't use the GT centre console and heater controls if u use a sedan shifter as well, so you'll need a sedan heater control panel. Oh, and the radio will have to be moved, but in a GT, that area is used by the 3 centre gauges.
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Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:14 pm |
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degruch
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:50 am Posts: 774
Car(s): Peugeot 206 GTi 180, Ford Fiesta, Bond Equipe 2-Litre GT, Mazda R360 Coupe, Nissan CSP-311 Silvia. PAST: Bellett 1600GT
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Is your disc brake conversion available Brett? Might be a better option than resorting to sedan drums in the short term...probably in the long term too, as you can get parts!
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Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:33 pm |
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PR91
Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:54 am Posts: 2544
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Not "mine" per say..... But I have access. Is always available. Easy to get parts. As to whether they are available OS is anyone's guess.
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Fri Nov 13, 2015 1:42 am |
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Earthp
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:55 pm Posts: 46 Location: Portugal
Car(s): Isuzu Bellett GT 1967, Toyota Celica TA22 1973, Toyota Corolla KE35 SR 1976
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Thanks for the help guys
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Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:43 pm |
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Antti Pellonpää
Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:33 am Posts: 51 Location: Finland, Alavus
Car(s): Impulse -85, racing Bellett -67 1,5-liter 5-speed, GEO Storm -93 1,8 16V DOHC
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I haven´t visited here for a long time... That looks like a very good project if we look it from Finland. Our GT projects have been so rusted away.... that they nearly have not been.. And it´s also mostly because they were in rally use here. I have restored one GT and one 2d Sport and with both projects it was eassily to take a 4b Bellett and put the GT or Sport parts to it. Sport was of course easier, because you didn´t have to change the roof, only put the doors and B-pilar and rear fender from the sport. When I made my GT I welded the GT roof to 4d Bellett, put GT doors and B-pilar and made the rear fender from 4d fender and from 4d door. I woud say that the GT roof is easy to put to a 4d Bellett body. I even didn´t put the disk brakes to my Sport. I had to make these cars this way, because for example from that Sport I found and bought only the doors, rear fenders with the pilar, rear side windows, that piece of metal where the body number was and the papers. If someone makes the GT roof from a fibreglass, I can make a Bellett GT... The doors can also be made from 4d Bellett doors.
With both projects I had a good running and registered Bellett 4d for the changing process. And after some years I got a 2-liter 175hp (tuned in Australia) twincam under the hood of my GT. Yes, from Australia. If I remember right I bought 7 DOHC engines, 2 x 1,8-liters and 5 x 2-liters and 5 speed gearboxes to them, from Australia Barry Hughan to me and our club in the early 90´s. After that I have bought one 2-liter from New Zealand and one 1,6 twincam from Australia.
So, don´t worry. Make a GT!
Antti
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Earthp
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:55 pm Posts: 46 Location: Portugal
Car(s): Isuzu Bellett GT 1967, Toyota Celica TA22 1973, Toyota Corolla KE35 SR 1976
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Hi guys...I'm back The Bellett was in pause mode, I was finishing my 73 Toyota Celica TA22 restoration. The Celica is now ready for the roads Now is Bellett time Meanwhile I bought some parts for the Bellett through the years...but I'm still looking for some parts, can you help me? I'm looking for the front blinkers and the headlight trims. Thanks guys
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Glenn
Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 am Posts: 2824 Location: Melb.
Car(s): '72 Sport Bellett (imported 180912), M/B AMG A35, i30, had Belletts in past, 2 sed, 3 GT's.
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Earthp wrote: Hi guys...I'm back The Bellett was in pause mode, I was finishing my 73 Toyota Celica TA22 restoration. The Celica is now ready for the roads Now is Bellett time Meanwhile I bought some parts for the Bellett through the years...but I'm still looking for some parts, can you help me? I'm looking for the front blinkers and the headlight trims. Thanks guys Both of those items are very rare to find as spares.
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Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:52 am |
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flying
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:11 am Posts: 259 Location: Adelaide
Car(s): 1967 GT Bellett
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Hi I have clear copies of the beehive lens but not the metal surroud As Glenn has said the headlight surrounds are very scarce Cheers Flying
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Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:40 am |
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Earthp
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:55 pm Posts: 46 Location: Portugal
Car(s): Isuzu Bellett GT 1967, Toyota Celica TA22 1973, Toyota Corolla KE35 SR 1976
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flying wrote: Hi I have clear copies of the beehive lens but not the metal surroud Flying Maybe I'll try to make metal surround replicas It's possible to find similiar lights/lens from other classic cars. I believe that the most import thing to find now is the headlight trims, because I have the front grille but the trims are missing
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Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:27 am |
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Dean
Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:57 pm Posts: 72
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I have a set of the beehive (GT) lenses for sale. PM me or go to classic isuzu on Facebook.
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Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:55 pm |
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50 Bells Bellett
Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:08 pm Posts: 76 Location: Penrith ,NSW
Car(s): 2x 1964/5 ' Teardrops' & 1967 Bellett &too many Valiants
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Morris 1800 look similar, maybe they can be modified to fit?
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KJB
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:05 am Posts: 620 Location: Western Victoria
Car(s): Bellett GT, Bellett Sedan, Prince Skyline GT, Porsche tractor, Lanz Bulldog, 996 Carrera 4,Prince Miler,
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If it does not fit it is a hellava good start...……….that has got to be better than nothing (how many of them are there out there ?)…......you must have "eagle eyes.."
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Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:29 am |
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50 Bells Bellett
Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:08 pm Posts: 76 Location: Penrith ,NSW
Car(s): 2x 1964/5 ' Teardrops' & 1967 Bellett &too many Valiants
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KJB wrote: If it does not fit it is a hellava good start...……….that has got to be better than nothing (how many of them are there out there ?)…......you must have "eagle eyes.." As soon as I saw them I remembered those old pommy cars having a similar looking headlight trim. Used to be a quite a few around when I was a kid. Hopefully the parts are still easier to find than GT Bellett bits!
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Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:26 pm |
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Earthp
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:55 pm Posts: 46 Location: Portugal
Car(s): Isuzu Bellett GT 1967, Toyota Celica TA22 1973, Toyota Corolla KE35 SR 1976
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50 Bells Bellett wrote: Morris 1800 look similar, maybe they can be modified to fit? I didn't knew this Morris 1800...they really look similar. I will try to find the Austin trims. KJB wrote: If it does not fit it is a hellava good start...……….that has got to be better than nothing (how many of them are there out there ?)…......you must have "eagle eyes.." True Thanks guys for the help
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Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:36 pm |
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Stickman
Joined: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:29 pm Posts: 1524 Location: Kallangur, Brisbane QLD
Car(s): 3x1965 PR20(Donkey, Jenny n Bundy) 1 1969 PR20(Percy) 2 1968 PR20(Eugine n GT Donor) 1 1968 PR91 GT, 1 1965 Wasp
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I have both types, the Bellett ones are pressed alloy and tend to get banged up a bit but the Austin ones are cast then chromed. The Austin ones ar a bit deeper too and in my opinion look better, much better quality but totally different mounting. I am actually using the Austin ones on my GT instead of the original Isuzu ones (which are a bit beat up anyway)
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