View unanswered posts | View active topics It is currently Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:19 pm



Reply to topic  [ 19 posts ] 
Parcel Trays under the Glovebox 
Author Message
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:11 am
Posts: 259
Location: Adelaide
Car(s): 1967 GT Bellett
Reply with quote
Just wondering how many Australian delivered cars had this accessory
Cheers
Flying


Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:45 am
Profile

Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:04 am
Posts: 386
Location: Boyne Island.Gladstone. Queenland
Car(s): '70 PR91,'69 PR20 x 2,'66 PR20,'65? KR20's x 2,'66 ? PR90,2012 d22 STR Navarra.
Reply with quote
Hi Flying.
All Deluxe sedans from '66.5 up to '68?. Why I have a ? after the year is because I don't have information from
'67 to '71. It was interesting to read that the PR20 '71/'72 years did not list it as a part for that model. Including the PR50 Special.
All PR91 GT's. from start of production.
My '69 PR20 never had one. Even though it had a few Deluxe parts fitted and isn't a Deluxe. I bought a shelf from
a wrecking yard off of a Rodeo and using the shelf out of my convertible as a pattern and I modified it to suit.
Maybe someone with a bit more information may be able to fill the gap between '67 and '71.

Dave.

_________________
CQGT.
I'm the Dave with the convertible.


Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:21 am
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:11 am
Posts: 259
Location: Adelaide
Car(s): 1967 GT Bellett
Reply with quote
Thanks

The reason I ask is that mine has not one fitted I bought mine in 1978 only the 3rd Owner it was as far as I know very original
Do you have any pictures of how they attach?

Regards Flying


Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:15 pm
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 am
Posts: 2823
Location: Melb.
Car(s): '72 Sport Bellett (imported 180912), M/B AMG A35, i30, had Belletts in past, 2 sed, 3 GT's.
Reply with quote
My 72 sport has one. Obviously not Aust delivered though but i thought at least all GT's had them standard.

Mounts: as far as i recall all Belletts have a tapped hole on the A pillar....... one bracket goes in there (pics)
On the right, a curved bracket runs up under the lower dash area.

At the back there are L shaped brackets underneath that screw into the firewall. Possibly those holes are in all cars too, not sure.


Attachments:
parcel shelf_3.JPG
parcel shelf_3.JPG [ 44.47 KiB | Viewed 19679 times ]
parcel shelf_2.JPG
parcel shelf_2.JPG [ 32.48 KiB | Viewed 19679 times ]
parcel shelf_1.JPG
parcel shelf_1.JPG [ 55.53 KiB | Viewed 19679 times ]

_________________
'72 PR60 Sport
Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:07 am
Profile WWW

Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:54 am
Posts: 2544
Reply with quote
Every PR91 GT that was Aust delivered had one. Guaranteed.
Never seen one in a sedan, even a Deluxe. Doesn't mean pre 69 cars didn't have them tho. I've just never looked
Can also guarantee that 69 Deluxes did not have them tho.


Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:17 pm
Profile

Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:04 am
Posts: 386
Location: Boyne Island.Gladstone. Queenland
Car(s): '70 PR91,'69 PR20 x 2,'66 PR20,'65? KR20's x 2,'66 ? PR90,2012 d22 STR Navarra.
Reply with quote
Hi Flying.
I've attached a few pics of the Parcel trays out of my GT's.
Hoping those who are not aware of what We are discussing will now know.
Even that I had a sample to copy from I reckon would still be easy to make.

Dave.


Attachments:
File comment: Under dash location 2.
105_0076.JPG
105_0076.JPG [ 862.61 KiB | Viewed 19631 times ]
File comment: Under das location.
105_0075.JPG
105_0075.JPG [ 808.33 KiB | Viewed 19631 times ]
File comment: Single tray.
105_0073.JPG
105_0073.JPG [ 1.16 MiB | Viewed 19631 times ]
File comment: Both Trays.
105_0070.JPG
105_0070.JPG [ 1.15 MiB | Viewed 19631 times ]

_________________
CQGT.
I'm the Dave with the convertible.
Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:38 am
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:11 am
Posts: 259
Location: Adelaide
Car(s): 1967 GT Bellett
Reply with quote
Thanks for that

As PR91 mentioned all PR91's had them
I am wondering if mine was on the cusp and had some PR90 stuff

My Heater was a cable similar to the Choke but labelled Heat and only 1 slide for vent/ recirculation

Cheers Flying


Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:57 am
Profile

Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:04 am
Posts: 386
Location: Boyne Island.Gladstone. Queenland
Car(s): '70 PR91,'69 PR20 x 2,'66 PR20,'65? KR20's x 2,'66 ? PR90,2012 d22 STR Navarra.
Reply with quote
Hi Flying.
Have been going through all my catalogues and unable to see any heat cable similar to your description.
Which leads me to the following questions.
The "heat" cable. Where does it go to. Which vent.? Most genuine Bellett heater systems have two vents.
The slide lever cable. Where to.?
Have you got a separate switch (toggle type) to operate the blower motor.? Have you got a blower motor.?
This next one will be difficult to answer because your console will have to be removed to see what I'm asking for.
Have you got a large black housing encasing the heater core and blower motor attached to your plenum/air intake
housing which has a vent inside it to allow the air from your grille at the bottom of the windscreen for the air to
enter into the cabin. You probably know what I'm talking about anyway.
On the lower left hand corner of the black housing there should be a Manufacturers label (Diesel Kiki). On the right lower of the label is a eight figure part number with a prefix of 8361- and then four more numbers after. This number
will determine what heater system was installed from manufacture.
If you feel that you need to discuss this 1 on 1. Give me a call on 0488737038.

Dave.

_________________
CQGT.
I'm the Dave with the convertible.


Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:13 am
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:05 am
Posts: 620
Location: Western Victoria
Car(s): Bellett GT, Bellett Sedan, Prince Skyline GT, Porsche tractor, Lanz Bulldog, 996 Carrera 4,Prince Miler,
Reply with quote
Probably a local fitted heater with the cable/control operating the water tap. I installed an Australian heater (after-market but to suit a Bellett) in my new '66.5 Bellett sedan soon after I bought it. There was no fan , just a heater core and a tap. The result was beautiful , especially when travelling long country gravel roads on cold wet nights...! (not having to wear a coat to keep warm and a demisted windscreen were big plus's....)

_________________
Around here the Laws of Physics and Reality are strictly enforced !


Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:58 am
Profile

Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:04 am
Posts: 386
Location: Boyne Island.Gladstone. Queenland
Car(s): '70 PR91,'69 PR20 x 2,'66 PR20,'65? KR20's x 2,'66 ? PR90,2012 d22 STR Navarra.
Reply with quote
Hi KJB.
I too had a aftermarket heater fitted to my first '67 Bellett. Smiths brand. I've still got it. Removed it from when
I wrote the car off. Was going to fit it to my Wasp. Although different under the dash. Reckon with a bit of bush engineering I would get it to fit.
And your right about the cold. Two blankets around me and the missus wasn't enough.

Dave.

_________________
CQGT.
I'm the Dave with the convertible.


Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:19 am
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:11 am
Posts: 259
Location: Adelaide
Car(s): 1967 GT Bellett
Reply with quote
Hi CQGT

The cable connected to a tap at the water Pump

Never had a fan

I will have a look behind the console

The heater was disconnected in 1980 been like that ever since

Regards Flying


Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:21 am
Profile

Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:04 am
Posts: 386
Location: Boyne Island.Gladstone. Queenland
Car(s): '70 PR91,'69 PR20 x 2,'66 PR20,'65? KR20's x 2,'66 ? PR90,2012 d22 STR Navarra.
Reply with quote
Hi Flying.
Seems like at this stage you may have a non-genuine heater.
As KJB has indicated that his PR20 never had a fan. Mine didn't either.
Will be interesting to see what is behind the console. :o

Dave.

_________________
CQGT.
I'm the Dave with the convertible.


Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:52 am
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:05 am
Posts: 620
Location: Western Victoria
Car(s): Bellett GT, Bellett Sedan, Prince Skyline GT, Porsche tractor, Lanz Bulldog, 996 Carrera 4,Prince Miler,
Reply with quote
Maybe the later Deluxes were equipped with "factory " fan type heaters ......I had a '69 ? (strip tailight) Deluxe at one stage and I thought it had a Fan /Heater.....maybe I am wrong.....Someone here will know......
KB

_________________
Around here the Laws of Physics and Reality are strictly enforced !


Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:52 am
Profile

Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:54 am
Posts: 2544
Reply with quote
All had a heater of sorts. Standard sedans had a blow thru heat exchanger type of arrangement but no fan.
All late deluxe sedans had the same 2 speed fan attached to the exchanger as the GT's with the switch as part of the lower control.


Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:25 am
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:11 am
Posts: 259
Location: Adelaide
Car(s): 1967 GT Bellett
Reply with quote
Hi
During Lock down i have found some tome to fiddle
I removed the Centre console and then removed the Heat Exchanger which just fed the windscreen and side vents.
I had some heaters in the shed that included the 2 speed fan and dual slide controls
Does anyone have a good rubber that goes between the fan unit and upper vent as mine is very ordinary. It goes from the oval shape into a circle. My guess would be that its in the unobtainable realm

Regards Flying


Attachments:
File comment: whats fitted now
353.JPG
353.JPG [ 51.75 KiB | Viewed 18497 times ]
File comment: parts found
352.JPG
352.JPG [ 68.03 KiB | Viewed 18497 times ]
File comment: originally in car
346.JPG
346.JPG [ 63.79 KiB | Viewed 18497 times ]
Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:47 am
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:05 am
Posts: 620
Location: Western Victoria
Car(s): Bellett GT, Bellett Sedan, Prince Skyline GT, Porsche tractor, Lanz Bulldog, 996 Carrera 4,Prince Miler,
Reply with quote
I made mine up by cutting an old biscuit tin (with scissors) , hold in place with a couple of self tappers, and then sealed it with silicon and painted. I then sealed this part to the body with reinforced duct tape after it was bolted in . Works very well. It cannot be see when installed.


Attachments:
Bellett GT Cold air intake mods 3012011 (2).JPG
Bellett GT Cold air intake mods 3012011 (2).JPG [ 2.79 MiB | Viewed 18490 times ]

_________________
Around here the Laws of Physics and Reality are strictly enforced !
Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:23 am
Profile
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:11 am
Posts: 259
Location: Adelaide
Car(s): 1967 GT Bellett
Reply with quote
Hi KJB
That looks like a good solution
Cheers
Flying


Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:42 am
Profile

Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:04 am
Posts: 386
Location: Boyne Island.Gladstone. Queenland
Car(s): '70 PR91,'69 PR20 x 2,'66 PR20,'65? KR20's x 2,'66 ? PR90,2012 d22 STR Navarra.
Reply with quote
I was wondering if the South Australia importer had GT's come in without the factory heater and fitted an accessory type just to keep costs down.
The heat exchanger is the same as my white GT and it's from South Australia. I mentioned before in this post that my first
car I fitted a Smiths' heater not to similar to the above picture and without the box.
I cannot find in all my parts catalogues that exchange unit. But. There is a listing for heater kits for up to 1966 and then from 1967.
The importer imported the vehicles less the heater from factory and as an option to the buyer a heater will be fitted as an accessory. And the buyer does not know that the heater is not the same as the factory unit. Woops. :o
Like I mentioned. Just wondering.
And if your thinking that the hose that Flying has shown must be an afterthought. Oval to round. ????.
Diesel Kiki had the contract to supply the heaters to Isuzu. Just looking at the diagrams in the parts catalogues shows the early vehicles had a rubber round elbow between the plenum inlet and the heater. Isuzu changed the inlet to oval and Diesel Kiki didn't want to change their tooling so they came up with the oval to round elbow. Which is a part of the vehicle when disturbed splits or fall to bits. I'll try to upload the parts listing to show you what I'm referring to.
Dave.

_________________
CQGT.
I'm the Dave with the convertible.


Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:12 pm
Profile

Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:04 am
Posts: 386
Location: Boyne Island.Gladstone. Queenland
Car(s): '70 PR91,'69 PR20 x 2,'66 PR20,'65? KR20's x 2,'66 ? PR90,2012 d22 STR Navarra.
Reply with quote
Parts listing for heaters. As you can see the difference between the early duct hose and the late.

Dave.


Attachments:
File comment: Early heater unit.
Heater. Up to 0366..jpg
Heater. Up to 0366..jpg [ 469.06 KiB | Viewed 18378 times ]
Heater. From 5.66..jpg
Heater. From 5.66..jpg [ 642.51 KiB | Viewed 18378 times ]

_________________
CQGT.
I'm the Dave with the convertible.
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:23 am
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 19 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 14 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Designed by ST Software for PTF.