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3,200,000 Yen for unrestored GT-R and restoration service
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JT191
Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:05 am Posts: 543 Location: 12,450 miles away from the Big Warehouse in Melbourne
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This is another auction listing on Yahoo Japan by Eagle Sayama / Isuzu Sports: http://page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n90223841The reserve looks like 3,200,000 Yen. $38,865.61 USD. $38,469.18 AUD. It is a white, 1969 Bellett GT-R (with black hood, stripes, tailgate). The second and third photos are directly from the previous auction of the Orange (w/ Black) Bellett GT-R, which sold for 2,680,000 Yen ($33,035.44 US Dollars or 32,635.71 Australian Dollars). The orange car was discussed in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1138The item description for this white car includes a few more items than the orange car. But the really curious part is that this auction appears to be for the unrestored car and the restoration of the unrestored car. The car has not actually been restored yet. All the work listed has not been done yet. All the parts listed have not been installed yet. I must be from another era. I've always thought that you have to have the item in hand, and in the condition it is to be sold in, before you can actually offer it for sale. I guess this is "Welcome to the brave, new world of collectible cars".
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Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:00 pm |
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RobSA
Joined: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:55 am Posts: 580 Location: Adelaide
Car(s): BA Falcon, 68 Bellett
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Do you know the sad thing this will probably end up as another orange car with Watanabe mags It is rather interesting that they are selling the car and the restoration though Cheers Rob
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Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:35 am |
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JT191
Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:05 am Posts: 543 Location: 12,450 miles away from the Big Warehouse in Melbourne
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RobSA wrote: Do you know the sad thing this will probably end up as another orange car with Watanabe mags It is rather interesting that they are selling the car and the restoration though Cheers Rob I'll second the sentiment that we could do without another rolling orange cliche. But I've been trying to scrape together an extra $130 for a set of used Watanabes at Up Garage for the last six months, and the darn listing disappeared last week. If they end up on this car...
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Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:52 am |
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degruch
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:50 am Posts: 774
Car(s): Peugeot 206 GTi 180, Ford Fiesta, Bond Equipe 2-Litre GT, Mazda R360 Coupe, Nissan CSP-311 Silvia. PAST: Bellett 1600GT
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I wonder what sort of dodgy $5k resto you'll get for the additional $32k this car is worth?
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Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:40 am |
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rod
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:36 am Posts: 579
Car(s): 68gt coupe , 98 toyota prado
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what a joke ????? no way worth that much some sum one dreaming get real
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Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:08 am |
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PR91
Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:54 am Posts: 2544
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rod wrote: what a joke ????? no way worth that much some sum one dreaming get real actually rod.... thats the going rate for one now. considering our GT's go for 15k now, that shows how much the market has moved. also, one of the melbourne guys went to Japan in 2008, and personally inspected the only left hand drive GT-R ever built. it was still immaculate, and the asking price was over 50k aus.... and i'm not kidding. might sound expensive, but where else would u get one.....?
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Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:52 am |
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Farmer
Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:17 pm Posts: 2612 Location: Rye Park, N.S.W.
Car(s): Doris, AuntyMary, Shrek, Jimmy; GT, Wasp, Flo & Sed unrestos; 65 Elf; 82 Rodeo, 60 TX550, 72 Sport, & a Sigma.
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Leave it as it is, I reckon! Genuine GT-R ratter! Genuine bonnet patina! Too cool for Skool! How much now?
Makes the N.Z. car a ded-set bargain, genuine OR replica!! Somebody buy it & float it over here so Tom's car has a mate. Cheers.
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Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:00 pm |
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dave
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:15 am Posts: 1991
Car(s): 1965 Wasp, 1966 Bellett, 1967 Bellett, 1969 Florian, 1973 Bellett GTR, 1976 Buick Opel by Isuzu, 1978 Gemini van
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yeah but as jt said, I would have thought the finished product would have been worth that money, not an unrestored banger that comes with the promise of a restoration!
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Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:01 pm |
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GTtoo
Joined: Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:51 am Posts: 1034
Car(s): 1964 GT Isuzu Bellett
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So what your saying (without being distrusting or unrespectful to "Eagle Sayama") is you'de want to see the finished product in the flesh before you hand over any money.
That would be like a gangster deal. Show them the siut case full of reddies and promise it when you can see the GTR fully resto'd.
Nah, go Farmers idea : Ship it downunder for a bit of rat treatment !?!
B.
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Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:33 pm |
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JT191
Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:05 am Posts: 543 Location: 12,450 miles away from the Big Warehouse in Melbourne
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If someone is selling a mass produced item, and it's new, like an appliance, one picture and description for a bunch of listings works great, because they are all the same. For a used car, especially when the car is not in the condition it will be sold in, it doesn't work that well. $30,000+, and the buyer is pretty much thinking "this is my dream car". Everybody's opinion of perfectly restored is a little different. Everybody's opinion of acceptable or desirable upgrade is different. One person might want the car exactly as it rolled out of the showroom. Another might want it in better than new condition. Another still might want modern upgrades. And everyone can disagree on the specifics of every detail. I know more than a few unreasonable people who would fully and seriously expect a V12 engine under the hood, and all the interior trim and hardware color matched perfectly to their favorite, Chinese made, pink engine compartment wiring harness kit.
The whole situation is a setup for a big nightmare. All from the land of "No claim, no return", the phrase at the end of every Japanese auction that means you are buying it in the condition as presented, you accept all defects stated or unstated, and there will be no discussion of refund or your unhappiness with the transaction.
The only way they could justify this is if they have such an overwhelming belief that they are the absolute authority of what is correct and appropriate when it comes to Isuzu vehicles and their restoration, and the rest of the world will have to accept their opinion on the matter without question. Good or not, that's too steep for me.
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Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:08 pm |
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2ldohc
Joined: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:22 pm Posts: 603 Location: Adelaide, Australia
Car(s): 1968 Isuzu Bellett Deluxe (Polynesian Blue), 1974 Datsun 240z, 1970 Datsun Fairlady SRL311, 1966 Prince Skyline
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Strangely I've seen this before in the US with 356 Porsches... California I think JT, but might be elsewhere too.
I wonder if Eagle is copying the States or the other way around?
Anyway, for my 2c I'd really like pictures of the actual finished vehicle so that I am paying for what I'm getting, not paying for vapourware.... I think there is a word for this kind of thing...
Cheers, R.
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